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Test rode a Cannon R900 Compact today...

Old 04-26-06, 05:19 PM
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Test rode a Cannon R900 Compact today...

Hey everyone, new here...already introduced myself in the other topic. I've been mountain biking for awhile and really want to start riding on the road...well, atleast not with my full susp. I currently have a Trek VRX 300 and the design is terrible on the road...so much drivetrain loss.

So, I test drove the R900 Compact and fell in love. I'm sure you guys remember the feeling, the first time you hopped on a true road bike and it felt like you were flying. My question is, since you already know my price range, what other brands and specific models should I look at? I've been very happy with my Trek but I've got absolutely no brand loyalty. The other brands I've thought about are Treks and Felts but I don't know any specifics about them. I'm open to anything.

Next question...On my next test ride, what kind of things should I do? Today, the shop I went to had a nice bike path around the corner and I was able to take the bike around. I had a blast since there was a nice .4 mile hill at around 4-5% grade. I was amazed at how light the bike is, but I'm sure, just like test driving a car, there are things you should do to see if it's "the one."

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Oh yeah, we did a quick fitting and the salesman, who seemed EXTREMELY knowledgeable and friendly, said I would need a 50. I'm 5'9" (5'10" in the morning...hehe) and weight 150 lbs., does this sound like the right size. I have a 30" inseam.

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No need to look elsewhere! Seriously, I might ride some Specialized, Treks, Giants, etc... just to get an idea about what feels best. The R900 is a great bike and the Campy shifters are super. 50 sounds a little small, but I'm 6'1" and ride a 58, my wife is 5'6" and rides about a 50. I would at least try a 52.

You usually know fairly quick if you like the bike or not. Last years R900's had a horrible seat, but that is easy enough to swap. I would ride as long as the shop will let you.

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50 seems really really small for someone 5'10". I would think a 54 or maybe a 56 would be more appropriate, but who knows. Get fitted.

Glad to hear you are jumping on the road bandwagon!
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Seems too small, I'm only 1.5-2 inches taller and I ride a 56cm. I would think you would be around a 52-54cm.
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Thanks for the quick responses! What trek model should I look at? I'm thinking about the 2200.
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I am 5'11' and I ride a 56, I could get a away with a 58 with some adjustments, but no way I could do a 54. might wanna at least try the 52 or 54. Just to make sure you like the 50.
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50 seems wayyyy small, unless you have legs like a Lhasa Apso. I'm 5'7" on a good day, and ride a 54cm Trek.
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With your inseam, just like mine I'd be testing 52 or 53, but definitely 53. Size 50 would put you in such an aggressive set up that you might sacrifice comfort over performance. At least I'd try 53.

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is 30inchs your pant inseam or real (in the crotch) inseam. I'm 5'8'' and have a 33+ inseam (30ish pants).
I found it helpful to have the true inseam when looking at traditional frames for standover, but even for compact it will help for throwing numbers into a fit calculater.
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I am 5'10" and would ride a 54cm R900...50 cm seems WAY too small to me too. R900 is a fantastic bike though. 30" inseam maybe a 52 but 50 seems small...what size did you ride...if you rode the 50 and you think it felt good then what the heck do we know?
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Thanks for the help on sizing, I'll check out the 52-54. It's my pant inseam that is a 30.

Now on to the next question...What do you guys recommend in comparision to the R900 from other brands? I notice I could get the Trek 2200 for the same price and it has uber Ultegra components on it.

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Since you already know your price range, you really just need to ride as many bikes as you can, and try different sizes. I spent days (many hours) riding bikes before getting my C'dale R1000 awhile back. I tried Trek, Specialized, Orbea, Felt, Lemond, etc., etc. I tried performance and relaxed geometry bikes. I really had no preconceived notion of what I was going to end up with. I wound up with a Top 3 in terms of fit: C'dale R1000, Felt F2c (wicked sale on an '05), and Orbea Dauphine. This was *so* important since my last bike was just too big and there was nothing I could do to make it right (lesson learned).

The R900 is a heck of a bike, but only if it fits *you.* At that price range, you will be hard pressed to find a clunker. Also at that price, it really makes sense to spend the time test riding the bikes. Only you can tell which one(s) are best.

As for the size, I am just over 5' 6", with a 29.5" inseam. I am riding a 50cm bike. I tried the 48(!) and felt too scrunched. The 52 was too stretched on top. Every time I come home from a ride, I can't believe how the bike fits and what an improvement it is from my last bike.
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Originally Posted by Jacobi
Oh yeah, we did a quick fitting and the salesman, who seemed EXTREMELY knowledgeable and friendly, said I would need a 50. I'm 5'9" (5'10" in the morning...hehe) and weight 150 lbs., does this sound like the right size. I have a 30" inseam.

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Typically, 5'9 is going to be more on the 54cm side of things, but there are so many variables its hard to say. You will probably know quickly if the bike is too small for you when you hop on a 50cm. Other bikes I would check out would be Specialized, Lemond, Orbea and maybe a Cannondale Synapse, its no slouch and it may fit you a bit better if you have a somewhat odd physique (as I do).
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Hi.
I recently was looking for a new bike too. I test rode fuji, felt, cannondale, celevo, felt. I really loved fuji and cannondale. I test two version of Felt and something was just off, I can't place my thumb on it. Same for celevo. I ended up going with Cannondale R1000 because Fuji was only sold by performance. Anyway I bought a 54 size. Before I rode 56 Specialiazed traditional frame, and found it to be a bit too big. I'm 5'9 by the way. So far I think 54 was a correct choice. The fit is pretty nice. I think 50 is waaay to small for you. On a test ride try different things. See how it handles, try mashing big gears to see if there is any flex in the bb. If there is any hills try climbing them. Try ridding in the drops.
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When he was fitting the bike and had it on the trainer, I was able to step off of the pedals and clear the top pipe so maybe it is too short...I'll take a look at the 52-54. Thanks!

No one has commented on the Trek 2200...It's a $1999 bike and I've found it for $1599, lots of ultegra on this thing too...
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Originally Posted by Jacobi
When he was fitting the bike and had it on the trainer, I was able to step off of the pedals and clear the top pipe so maybe it is too short...I'll take a look at the 52-54. Thanks!

No one has commented on the Trek 2200...It's a $1999 bike and I've found it for $1599, lots of ultegra on this thing too...
Um no really...buy the Cannondale...mmm Campagnolo.

The Trek is a fine bike too but IMO the Cannondale is superior.
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Love mine and think the seat is fine
 
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I've fitted a lot of people on bikes of all different body sizes and I have never ever put someone 5'10" with a 30" inseam on a 50. As a matter of fact I cant even remember fitting them to a 52cm. Its always 53 cm+.

My 1st Cannondale was a 1996 Cannondale, 2nd was a 2002 R700, 3rd a 2005 R1000. I'm sold on that company, their frames, and their innovativeness. I've ridden other bikes and have the choice of about 4-5 other brands to ride but I only ride the others to compare. Seriously, I've taken SCOTT CR1's, Raleigh Prestiges, Felt's etc on long test rides. The Cannondales have been the most responsive, most efficient, smoothest bikes I've ever ridden...PERIOD. I would just ride all the bikes you have time for so you have a lot to compare it to.

I like the way Campy stuff works and am looking to upgrade my R1000 to Chorus or Record someday. Good luck with your hunting.
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Originally Posted by Jacobi
When he was fitting the bike and had it on the trainer, I was able to step off of the pedals and clear the top pipe so maybe it is too short...I'll take a look at the 52-54. Thanks!

No one has commented on the Trek 2200...It's a $1999 bike and I've found it for $1599, lots of ultegra on this thing too...

I personally wouldn't get the Trek. Its very similar (but newer) to what I ride now. Well. Just see my sig.

I consider Veloce to be Ultegra quality. Def. better than 105.

Also realize that the CAAD8 frame you get with the R900 is a world class, professional level, racing frame. Serious ProTour events have been won on that frame (notably, the Giro). Its one of the stiffest frames in existance, and in the sizes you are looking at they will be pretty light (the CAAD8 is lighter than a LOT of carbon frames out there that people splooge over).

On the other hand, you have the Trek aluminum bikes (made with either Alpha SL, Alpha SLR, or ZR9000 if it has carbon stays). They are acceptable bikes, sure - but assuming you like the ride and fit of the Cannondale, why would anyone pay for a mid-to-entry level aluminum frame that is not exceptional at anything at all when they could get a world-class frameset for nearly the same price?
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I'm 5'7" 143. Ride a 50cm R1000. Nothing like a CAAD8. Tried a lot of bikes before deciding on that one, never looked back. I consider it a very upgrade worthy frame, and will be doing so this summer when I can validate purchases (or reward myself for moving up...both are true).
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Cannondale sizes their stuff a little differently I think. I fit fine on a 52cm Trek but felt really stretched out on a 52cm Cannondale. In fact, I ride a 50cm WSD-R700 which measures out to a 48cm R700. I'm 5'4, 130lbs. Not that riding WSD bothers me anymore, the frame is blue and the group is basically all-ultegra instead of the 105's on the regular R700

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Who cares if it fits, just make sure it has Campy!
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