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Heads up, Ebay gone wrong for a friend

Old 04-27-06, 07:44 AM
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Heads up, Ebay gone wrong for a friend

My Buddy just got his account hacked at ebay last night. The hacker maxed his credit card which was linked to paypal out at $6000 and then chopped into his checkbook and got another $3000 and had it all shipped to Viet Nam. Last I heard, the shopping spree had ended. From what I understand, his Credit card is protected but the funds in his Checking are history.

He wants to kill someone and Im not kidding.


Keep and eye on you PP accounts.
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Old 04-27-06, 07:51 AM
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And people wonder why I won't link a bank account to my PayPal account. I feel for your pal.
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Sh*t...I never thought of this and I'm pretty aggressive about protecting my 'puter. Time to set up a new account with next to nothing in it for Paypal.

**Thanks for the heads up - I just removed my bank account from my Paypal. It's an unverified account now.

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Old 04-27-06, 08:46 AM
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Never leave money in your PP account.

My mom transfers money into the PP account from her checking account before a purchase, only enough to cover the cost of the item.
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Yuk! I better talk to the wife. I don't use ebay or paypal, but she does. Paypal should be held responsible for this if they couldn't secure your friend's account.
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Originally Posted by 56/12 and 22/28
Never leave money in your PP account.

My mom transfers money into the PP account from her checking account before a purchase, only enough to cover the cost of the item.

He's not talking about a Paypal account, he's referring to the bank account linked to the Paypal account. Is your Mom's account linked...she'd be wise to remove it. Paypal/Fleabay couldn't give a damn when you lose everything through their service, all they see is rising profits.
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Originally Posted by Doggus
He's not talking about a Paypal account, he's referring to the bank account linked to the Paypal account. Is your Mom's account linked...she'd be wise to remove it. Paypal/Fleabay couldn't give a damn when you lose everything through their service, all they see is rising profits.
That's a problem.

I'm going to tell her to do so tonight.
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I learned that hard lesson as well. Here is what everyone should know:
1. Never respond to emails that come to your personal email box. Most of them are E-bay hacks or Paypal hacks.
2. Official Ebay messages will be in your Ebay in-box.
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Old 04-27-06, 09:32 AM
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If you fall for the fake paypal emails, you'll get hacked...otherwise, your account is secure. The only way the crooks get your login information is when you give it to them.
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He either fell for an email, or his computer isn't secured. If they got his ebay password first, then he shouldn't have had the same password for ebay and paypal.

My ebay was used somehow, but no real damage. Unfortunately ebay won't tell you how they found out it was wrongly accessed. I just logged in and ebay had disabled my account because there was a Rolex listed.

A few years ago I logged into my ebay account, but the "My ebay" page wasn't mine. I was looking at someone elses auctions. It would let me go into their auctions, all worked. Could modify or whatever I wanted to. So ebay isn't perfect, there is flaws. They do not give access to paypal from ebay for safety reasons in case ebay gets broken into, so passwords should be different for your safety.
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And fake second chance offers. If you get a second chance offer from the bike section, email the item seller , outside ebay if possible, to check the validity of the offer. Almost got scammed out of $1400. Ebay said it was a stolen account! The offer came thruough the "secure" ebay system.
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Originally Posted by Doggus
Sh*t...I never thought of this and I'm pretty aggressive about protecting my 'puter. Time to set up a new account with next to nothing in it for Paypal.

**Thanks for the heads up - I just removed my bank account from my Paypal. It's an unverified account now.

I have multiple bank accounts with purpose specific reasons. One is my local account used to buy stuff locally one is online bill pay with just enough in it each month to cover the bills other is online shopping account wich only has the purchase ammount in it. My bank says up to 24 hours for funds transfer but ive yet to see it take more than 3 hours.

As for the ebay stuff tell your friend to stop clickign links in emails from "ebay" and other places to confirm his account or other nonsence. If the email seems to be 100% legit then highlight the link and copy it as plane text then paste in to address bar. This will prevent the phishing crap out right.
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Originally Posted by yater
If you fall for the fake paypal emails, you'll get hacked...otherwise, your account is secure. The only way the crooks get your login information is when you give it to them.
Wrong, this dude is pretty sharp, never used links to get to PP..Only the site. Someone hacked him, simple.
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Old 04-27-06, 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by C_heath
Wrong, this dude is pretty sharp, never used links to get to PP..Only the site. Someone hacked him, simple.
like maybe used a packet sniffer or backdoor to his 'puter? brute force? do you have add'l info on the breach?
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nope. roadrunner with all firewalls, AV etc.
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Originally Posted by yater
If you fall for the fake paypal emails, you'll get hacked...otherwise, your account is secure. The only way the crooks get your login information is when you give it to them.
Correct, Some of them are very very good and can fool even the most seasoned online users.

One additoinal suggestion is to keep eBay, Paypal, email, and other passwords unique. And Change them often.
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Originally Posted by yater
If you fall for the fake paypal emails, you'll get hacked...otherwise, your account is secure. The only way the crooks get your login information is when you give it to them.

Ever hear of inside jobs. THere are other ways to get access to systems other than phishing. In my opinion...it's not worth several thousand dollars to believe my accts are going to be 'OK' linked into Paypals system. Next thing you know, there'll be a story on Drudge about Paypal accounts have been compromised.
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dude, when you're hacked, you're hacked (assuming it happened that way). It's not PayPal's problem, not eBay's. If you got hacked, a lot of things may happen (online banking, financial records, ANYTHING you keep on your computer). Just feel lucky your buddy's nude photos and home sex videos aren't all over the web ).
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Make sure to check any emails you get from paypal asking you to update anything. I have gotten three fake ones so far. The first one I almost fell for because my credit card was about to expire. When I clicked on the link I thought it was weird that they only allowed a debit card and wanted my PIN for that card! It was then that I looked at the URL and noticed that although the link in the email said paypal.com it was an encrypted link to some other site, probably after my bank info!!! I forwarded is to paypal fraud protection, but keep getting the emails. So somebody is out there screwing people.
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Once you start using ebay and paypal more often you seem to get targeted in these email spoofs..

These emails try to get your passwords and do what happened to your friend.. They will usually say your account will be suspended unless you verify info.. 100% of these types of emails are fakes.. They usually come from overseas.
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Originally Posted by Doggus
Ever hear of inside jobs. THere are other ways to get access to systems other than phishing. In my opinion...it's not worth several thousand dollars to believe my accts are going to be 'OK' linked into Paypals system. Next thing you know, there'll be a story on Drudge about Paypal accounts have been compromised.
And the chances you are a victim of such an inside job is about next to nothing. It's enormously more likely that it was phished or the computer was r00tkitted.

Nevertheless, i'm passing on this good advice to my friends.
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I don't see how the money in his checkings account is lost. Most banks offer fraud protection in cases of theft.
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thanks I just removed my bank account.
While most problems like this occur due to phishing, there is not much you can do against rootkits or hacking.
I may just pay for ebay stuff using a credit card or bank deposit.
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Originally Posted by rvabiker
I don't see how the money in his checkings account is lost. Most banks offer fraud protection in cases of theft.

I would still like to avoid that style of stress. Probably knock 5 years off my life
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