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Old 05-16-06, 08:24 AM
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Please help in choosing for my teens....

I am a 43 yo father of two teens. My son is 165 lbs and about 5'7" almost 18 yo. My daughter is 145 5'8" almost 16 yo. I ride a Merlin Solis with Campy Chorus and have ridden for over 20 years. I want my kids to get into riding and they are excited about it.

I am looking at the Orbea Volata, Bianchi Imola, Trek 1500. Looking at the 1200-1400 range. Since they are starting, I don't want to go any farther overboard than I may be already. I figured that they could ride any of these for a long time. These could take them thru college, etc.

Any advice? My LBS that I bought my Merlin from carries the Orbea and the Bianchi.

The Trek dealer also carries the Giants as well. Thanks. We live in Nashville and are about three miles from the Natchez Trace. Most of our rining will be fitness oriented with some 'fun' charity event rides thrown in.
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A cheaper or used bike might be better for college due to theft potential. If you want to go ahead in that price range why not shop around with them and see what they like?
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No doubt about the potential of theft in college. Personally, I wouldn't drop that kind of dough until after they were out. But, all that said I'd love a Volata
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I'll probably send them off to school with a mtn. beater anyway, buy my son is going to be a senior and my daughter a soph., so I have some time to ride with them for a while.

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Originally Posted by gr8smiles
I'll probably send them off to school with a mtn. beater anyway
I had 2 of these stolen in 2yrs. The locks costs more than the bikes. But the MTB Beater is perfect for going away. Mean time pound the pavement with them on their shiny new Oreba's. Seriously, for that price range I'd let them pick which one they liked. 3g's is a lot to plop down for a pair of dust collectors.
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I can't imagine dropping that much money w/o any clear indication they'll stick with it... what I did for my wife was buy her an entry-level specialized for $600 and told her when she trains for and completes a 50 mile ride (organized, Tour De Cure in Arkansas) then I'll buy her whatever bike she wants... it seems to have worked, she's much more dedicated to riding now. And at least this way I don't have to lose a hefty chunk of change if she decides she doesn't want to ride after her first few rides.

I've never been a fan of the LOOK of the Orbea bikes... don't know anything about the Bianchi or Trek... so I will be no help there.

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Old 05-16-06, 09:34 AM
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Beaters are so cheap these days, they could always get that later for their college commute bike and leave their nice one with mom and dad. Or alternatively, they could keep it in their dorm room, chained up like my sister does.

Do you have to limit yourself to these two bike shops? There are a lot of other nice road bikes in that price range besides the ones you mentioned.

+1 to the other post on the $600 entry level bike from specialized. The Dolce might be a nice bike for your daughter to start with if you aren't sure yet how much she will be riding. I bought this one for my sister and she likes it. There is a junior on my team who races on one. It's a nice looking bike. The components aren't the fanciest but it works well

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Old 05-16-06, 09:42 AM
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One suggestion is to keep the componentry compatible, so you can swap parts easily if needed (or hand your children down parts as an excuse to upgrade). My dad used to hand Ultegra stuff and a frame down to me to justify his building up of a Merckx with Dura Ace. So in your case, maybe keep them on Campy?

I agree with the college comment, but you seem to know that already. When I worked for a bike shop, people used to come in asking for the crappiest used bikes because they were sick of getting the nice ones stolen. We didn't sell used bikes, so we usually referred them to the Recycler. One person wanted the service plan, though, so they bought a new bike and rubbed mud and sand all over it, and keyed it so it wouldn't be as tempting to steel! I also noticed tons of bike locks with just the seatpost or front wheel on them around campus. Tell them to lock ALL quick release parts!!!
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At many colleges, vandalism is a huge problem. If they are going to leave their bikes on the racks at night, I would get a much cheaper used bike, but then get them something nice if they can stick with them. Also, road bikes are not good campus bikes since they're not good for carrying stuff and they can be awkward for shorter distances.

I do think this is a decision you'll want them in on. They're much more likely to ride something they are drawn to.
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I would say have them buy what feels most comfortable to them. If they really get into it and take their bike to college, the bike would most likely stay inside the dorm room. My bike ALWAYS stayed in my room, never locked up outside.

Others mentioned about compatibility with campy, but since your bike is 20 years old, your campy stuff would most likely not be compatible unless you recently upgraded your group. Once again, I would let them buy which ever system they like best. It only really becomes an issue when you start racing and you are the only campy kid on the team and have no spare wheels to use in the wheelpit.

Give them a budget and have them choose.
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Originally Posted by DamnRock
I can't imagine dropping that much money w/o any clear indication they'll stick with it... what I did for my wife was buy her an entry-level specialized for $600 and told her when she trains for and completes a 50 mile ride (organized, Tour De Cure in Arkansas) then I'll buy her whatever bike she wants... it seems to have worked, she's much more dedicated to riding now. And at least this way I don't have to lose a hefty chunk of change if she decides she doesn't want to ride after her first few rides.

I've never been a fan of the LOOK of the Orbea bikes... don't know anything about the Bianchi or Trek... so I will be no help there.

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So your wife rides because she wants your approval to get a better bike? Isn't that the kind of psychology one would use with a 6 year-old? Your household must work differently than mine. If I tried to pull that crap on my wife, her inner-Italian would come out and pay me a visit!

-"Oh really? How about I get whatever the hell bike I WANT, and you just deal with it?!"
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Originally Posted by nitropowered
...but since your bike is 20 years old...
Geez how did I miss that?! Yes in that case, look into Shimano because that's what's usually available in a team wheel pit or the sag wagon.
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Look/Bianchi/Orbea > Trek

Treks are like Toyota corollas. Everyone has one.
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Do you guys think that vandalism would be a problem if I left my bike in my dorm? I'm getting a semi-expensive ($1500 Flyte) road bike and heading off to Stony Brook University this fall.
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I have ridden over 20 years. My Merlin Solis is only 2 years old. We will go ride some this weekend and see. I had her ride the Carena Pro from REI and she liked it. He rode the REI one too as well as a Giant OSO (?) 1. He liked the Giant better. Plus, I really would rather buy from my bike shop vs. REI. But, I won't go down that path...
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Originally Posted by supahjew
Do you guys think that vandalism would be a problem if I left my bike in my dorm? I'm getting a semi-expensive ($1500 Flyte) road bike and heading off to Stony Brook University this fall.
In your dorm room? or in the dorm basement? or in the bike rack outside the dorm?

In the room, as long as you lock it up (to something big if possible otherwise u-lock through the frame and wheel ought to work), you and your roomie lock the door and your roommate isn't a complete a**hat, and you don't throw raging keggers, it should be fine. Word of advice, don't get blitzed on Jager and try to ride through the dorm hallway .

In the basement, it may get messed up but I doubt stolen if there are cameras. Not all places allow basement storage.

Outside, it will probably get messed up by drunks. Stolen maybe if you have a crappy lock or there is a high bike stealing rate at Stony Brook.

I think your best bet is keeping it inside your room unless Stony Brook is really drunk and crime free. Just make sure its on your side and your roommate doesn't mind.
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I want my kids to get into riding and they are excited about it.
Gosh, how the heck did you get them excited about it? I can't get my 15 & 16 y/o boys off the couch and away from a luminescent screen for anything. The idea of physical exertion is an anathema to them. How did you do it?
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Gosh, how the heck did you get them excited about it? I can't get my 15 & 16 y/o boys off the couch and away from a luminescent screen for anything. The idea of physical exertion is an anathema to them. How did you do it?
Would your boys go for a supported bike trip? My grandson and I had a great time touring Prince Edward Island several years ago.
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Originally Posted by TYB069
In your dorm room? or in the dorm basement? or in the bike rack outside the dorm?

In the room, as long as you lock it up (to something big if possible otherwise u-lock through the frame and wheel ought to work), you and your roomie lock the door and your roommate isn't a complete a**hat, and you don't throw raging keggers, it should be fine. Word of advice, don't get blitzed on Jager and try to ride through the dorm hallway .

In the basement, it may get messed up but I doubt stolen if there are cameras. Not all places allow basement storage.

Outside, it will probably get messed up by drunks. Stolen maybe if you have a crappy lock or there is a high bike stealing rate at Stony Brook.

I think your best bet is keeping it inside your room unless Stony Brook is really drunk and crime free. Just make sure its on your side and your roommate doesn't mind.
+1 i kept my bike in my dorm room all year with no problems.
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I kept my bike in my dorm room with no problems. My roommates were good about locking the door and bike was hanging up behind my bed so its difficult to get out if someone did want to steal it
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Originally Posted by supahjew
Do you guys think that vandalism would be a problem if I left my bike in my dorm? I'm getting a semi-expensive ($1500 Flyte) road bike and heading off to Stony Brook University this fall.
Depends on whether you hog the shower.
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Originally Posted by cooker
A cheaper or used bike might be better for college due to theft potential. If you want to go ahead in that price range why not shop around with them and see what they like?
I bought My Pinarello to Syracuse when I was there in the 80's and it never got stolen (of course I slept with it
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Originally Posted by tourist
No doubt about the potential of theft in college. Personally, I wouldn't drop that kind of dough until after they were out. But, all that said I'd love a Volata
I had a nice road bike all through college but I didn't use it for transportation on campus. I used it for training rides and walked or took the bus on campus.
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thats a lot of money for the kids first bike. your kids might not have reach their max. height yet so getting a nicer ride might not be a good idea.
I think a good entry level ride would be better
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Any advise?

Yes, get them bikes that fit NOW and don't get hung up on the idea that they will grow into them. They're fairly tall already so there shouldn't be any paticular fit issues and if you do sell them down the road because they no longer fit they will be a common size.

A bike that fits now will increase their enjoyment of cycling.

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