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Old 05-24-06, 09:14 PM
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hey guys, my name is cory from canada, 29yrs old...
5'11" 240lbs.... enroute to 210lb

2 yrs ago i bought a ORYX T-250 mountain bike....dont use it as much as i should, and when i do its road work.........thus thinking of getting a roadie... may sell mine for $800 to a friend to help the cost out

stopped by LBS today and saw two i liked..
GIANT TCR 2 i believe for $1499 CNDN 2 sprocket 10spd
Devinci Podium.........$1499 CNDN too 3 sprocket 9 spd

obviously u guys know the specs, and what not, i do like the look of the GIANT better..anyway..

1. where is the cheapest place in ontario to buy a quality road bike?
2. where is the cheapest in the USA.....close ideally for pick up purposes... im guessing $400 atleast could be saved going x border...?
3. $1400 would be my MAX budget...
4. mainly going to be for getting in better shape, to and from gyms..... may do some duathalons in the near future for some challenge??

any info is greatly appreciated...

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oh yeah, the GIANT is 20lbs not sure of the Devinci.... obviously lighter the better

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Old 05-25-06, 08:30 PM
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well, i went to a couple more bike shops today....

i realize that my price point, most are equal, and the one guy was showing me the differences in gears/shifters and stuff..... DEFINITELY not wanting sora shifters, no good on the down shift...

i found the
specialized arrez ELITE, and the ELITE A1 max, '04 i think...so $1250 CNDN
a norco crr 1 for $1499 too

also one of the mechanix is selling his '05 TREK 2100 for $1600... with race wheels/computer/ $150 pedals..

are all these bikes going to be in the same weight proximaty??? 20lbs??

ALSO, WHAT IS THE CHEAPEST ONLINE STORE FOR BIKES...... IM THINKING $400 COULD BE SAVED X BORDER

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Dahhhh. Too many questions. One at a time!
My advice is to focus less on your bike's weight, it's a common thing that first-time buyers obsess over. If you're 240 pounds, a 1 or 2 pound difference will simply NOT make a difference. Lose the weight off of your body (engine, literally) before you focus on the bike.

At the $1400, you still have a very wide range of options. Don't limit yourself to one or two bikes, it's a bad idea. My advice is to test ride... a LOT. Ride as many bikes as you can, and have the shop roughly fit them to you before you take them out. Then evaluate how they feel. A bike's fit is much more important than miniscule weight differences or even components. If a bike is not set up properly for your body, you won't enjoy it. Period.
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ALSO, WHAT IS THE CHEAPEST ONLINE STORE FOR BIKES...... IM THINKING $400 COULD BE SAVED X BORDER
Maybe you should stop YELLING.
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thanks guys....for the help....
not yelling, making the type stand out!!!!! IDIOT!.. thats yelling LOL

yeah, i realize fit is the most important, when i do decide to take the plunge i will ride...

i stood over the 56cm trek today, and my "boys" were maybe an inch form the crossbar..
guy at the the shop figures 56-58 anyways, but seat and stem position are likely critical here too....

thanks...
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Standover isn't good enough these days. With the advent of modern frame geometries, a good standover height does NOT always translate into a good fit overall. You gotta ask the LBS to fit you. Hell, demand it. It's what all good LBSs should do for you free anyway, if you buy a bike from them.
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No comment on specific bikes but some things to think about.
1) 105 is decent and is probably the lowest 'quality' component you want on the bike.
2) Looks are nice, but how did they ride? Test ride a bunch of bikes before you buy.
3) Buy from a local shop that will be willing to let you test out some bikes. They'll probably be doing your maintenance so you should get to know the guys/gals as well. From the internet, you won't get the bike fit or tweaked to your body.
4) Since you're a pretty big guy, make sure you get some nice strong wheels.

Good luck
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not yelling, making the type stand out!!!!! IDIOT!.. thats yelling LOL
Uh huh hilarious.
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This place seems to have good deals if you're willing to buy a bike over the internet.

https://bikesdirect.com/

I was thinking of buying a bike from this place, but I didn't because:

1. the local Performance shop had a good deal on their in-house brand bike (Tirreno Razza 2.0) for $765after you count the Team coupons

https://www.performancebike.com/shop/...tegory_ID=3040

2. I like the idea of lifetime tune-ups, which you don't get buying it over the net
3. If you don't wrench, you'll have to pay a shop to complete the assembly for you. (The idea of asking a LBS to put together a bike that you bought over the net seems mighty awkward)
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I'd say look at perhaps the OCR2 with some upgraded wheels (due to your weight).

I'd recommend not getting too carried away by spending a lot on a bike. You said you didn't ride your MTB too much, so don't spend a fortune on a roadie in case you end up not liking the sport you're not left with an expensive bike sitting in the garage.
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Originally Posted by badkarma
I'd say look at perhaps the OCR2 with some upgraded wheels (due to your weight).

I'd recommend not getting too carried away by spending a lot on a bike. You said you didn't ride your MTB too much, so don't spend a fortune on a roadie in case you end up not liking the sport you're not left with an expensive bike sitting in the garage.
hell, put some slicks on your mtb and see if you even like riding in the first place.
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I am 6'2" and was 215 last year when I bought my road bike. I got the Scott S2. It's in the $1400 US range, but LBS gave it to me for $1000 and discounted much of my other equip. to get me set up. I love this bike. Has full 105 group. Some bikes in the range will mix and match componentry. I've had absolutely no problems with this bike and have put many training miles on and also completed my first century in April.

Just giving my opinion on a quality bike I know about.
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I would suggest riding the OCR and TCR (and the equivalent of other brands).

The geometry is supposed to be more relaxed on the OCR than on the TCR, and to determine which you would like is NOT a factor of looks as much as how you prefer to ride.

I actually have bought some used vintage steel bikes for myself as I lose weight, but if I were to buy new, I would strongly consider a Giant OCR2 and have the LBS swap the wheels for a set similar to what is on the OCR3... Higher spoke count, and they look more suitable for a heavier rider to me.
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Originally Posted by Hambone
hell, put some slicks on your mtb and see if you even like riding in the first place.

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thanks guys.....

1. i was thinking of putting slicks on the MTB.... but realize it would not even be close to the speed of a roadie...
2. the one LBS said they would set me up on a trainer and get a complete fit.....although i dont like anything there really..... all trek
3. a coworker rebuilt or fixed a 20 yr old?? miele roadie, i am buying for $50 bucks to better gauge if i like it, and if i do.... the wife gets the MIELE......lol
4. ROAD BIKES JUST LOOK AWESOME....FAST STANDING STILL...
5. need wheel information... i know a couple i looked at had the xero 4?? or something,.... will have to find my notes.... what spoke count should i get... id like a nice midweight, not heavy wheel.... what are my options..

thanks

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Look at cross bikes, like the Kona Jake the snake, or Specialized TriCross. They will allow you to fit wider tires (28 or 32 mm) which will take the pain out of poorly maintained roads, and still go plenty fast.
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so what sounds like a smart move would be... find a $1000 bike with 105 components thats a perfect fit and upgrade the wheels..... im liking the sounds of that..

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Originally Posted by phatkid
so what sounds like a smart move would be... find a $1000 bike with 105 components thats a perfect fit and upgrade the wheels..... im liking the sounds of that..

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If you haven't gotten an answer to your wheel question:
I'm riding Ultegra hubs with Mavic Open Pro rims. 36 spokes

They are bullet proof.

I'm recently under 300 pounds for the first time in decades. Over 1500 miles on the wheels and they are still true. (The more spokes, the stronger but heavier the wheel.)
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Originally Posted by Hambone
If you haven't gotten an answer to your wheel question:
I'm riding Ultegra hubs with Mavic Open Pro rims. 36 spokes

They are bullet proof.

I'm recently under 300 pounds for the first time in decades. Over 1500 miles on the wheels and they are still true. (The more spokes, the stronger but heavier the wheel.)
+1

The ultegra+open pro is a solid combination of a decent weight wheel, it's fairly cheap, and it'll hold your weight.
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