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Old 05-27-06, 11:51 AM
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Rad -- it doesn't appear to be in Sept or Oct Issues from 2005. I lent out my Nov issue so I am unable to check that one.
I looked over the November issue, and didn't see what RAD is looking for. I couldn't find October.
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Originally Posted by 55/Rad
Do they mention anything about the paint?
I am not even sure this is what you are looking for as you said "builder." This is a painter and from reading your storied past, must be the frame that is "waiting." Here is exactly what the paragraph says. They are reviewing Hairy Gary Project Daedalus. The paint part of the article, "The paint is supplied by Steve Forsness of G Forse Bikes 208-772-7427. Though not as well known as Joe Bell or Cyclart, Forsness applied thel most stunning paint job to ever roll through our office. The candy-red and white coasting is lustrous an the precision in the scallops and darts is impeccable."
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Originally Posted by MICHAELM
I am not even sure this is what you are looking for as you said "builder." This is a painter and from reading your storied past, must be the frame that is "waiting." Here is exactly what the paragraph says. They are reviewing Hairy Gary Project Daedalus. The paint part of the article, "The paint is supplied by Steve Forsness of G Forse Bikes 208-772-7427. Though not as well known as Joe Bell or Cyclart, Forsness applied thel most stunning paint job to ever roll through our office. The candy-red and white coasting is lustrous an the precision in the scallops and darts is impeccable."
THAT IS IT!!!! - Thank you, thank you. It was the Hairy Gary part I was trying to remember.

Some background - as you know, my Tete project has been stuck in paint for 2 years. When this article came out, I called Steve and talked to him about taking over the project. It never went anywhere as the Tete really is too far along to start over.

But I figured if I ever had another project, he would be the guy to talk to.

Thank you again....

And thanks to everybody for the help.

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Originally Posted by 55/Rad
Do they mention anything about the paint?
The paint is applied by Steve Forsness... forness applied the most stunning paint job to ever roll through our office ... lustrous ... precision in the scallops and darts is impeccable.
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Originally Posted by MICHAELM
I am not even sure this is what you are looking for as you said "builder." This is a painter and from reading your storied past, must be the frame that is "waiting." Here is exactly what the paragraph says. They are reviewing Hairy Gary Project Daedalus. The paint part of the article, "The paint is supplied by Steve Forsness of G Forse Bikes 208-772-7427. Though not as well known as Joe Bell or Cyclart, Forsness applied thel most stunning paint job to ever roll through our office. The candy-red and white coasting is lustrous an the precision in the scallops and darts is impeccable."
Since you have provided so much insight for me and your "dry" sense of humor I can email you or fax the review just as a level of thanks. Just let me know if you want me to email or fax a copy of the review. If you need this better let me know cause I need to take a nap as I was spanked by some 40 year olds today on a 92 miler.
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Originally Posted by MICHAELM
Since you have provided so much insight for me and your "dry" sense of humor I can email you or fax the review just as a level of thanks. Just let me know if you want me to email or fax a copy of the review. If you need this better let me know cause I need to take a nap as I was spanked by some 40 year olds today on a 92 miler.
No need as you've provided me with what I needed and this thread will act as a permanent record.

I want to talk to Steve about doing a restore on my '89 Pinarello Montello.

Thanks again.

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Originally Posted by MICHAELM
I am not even sure this is what you are looking for as you said "builder." This is a painter and from reading your storied past, must be the frame that is "waiting." Here is exactly what the paragraph says. They are reviewing Hairy Gary Project Daedalus. The paint part of the article, "The paint is supplied by Steve Forsness of G Forse Bikes 208-772-7427. Though not as well known as Joe Bell or Cyclart, Forsness applied thel most stunning paint job to ever roll through our office. The candy-red and white coasting is lustrous an the precision in the scallops and darts is impeccable."


To heck with everything else, I wanna see pics of that bike those guys raved about.
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To heck with everything else, I wanna see pics of that bike those guys raved about.
Can't tell much from this - but it's the bike.

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Also - check out the top of this link for a PDF of the Bicycling article.

https://www.hairygary.com/index.html
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hmmmm.....

Not bad. But red?


Now, if it were blue.....
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What I took away from my conversation with Steve after talking to him back in October....

-The quality is amazing. Bicycling compared his work to Joe Bell, which compares to Acme.
-He's an artist as well as a craftsman - which has been the hangup with Acme since day 1.
-He claims he keeps to his reasonable delivery schedule.
-He's priced competively to the better known high-end options - Acme, Joe Bell, Cyclart etc.
-He sees the value in getting good photos of his work plastered all over the cycling forums.
-He seems like a nice guy - so nice I couldn't remember his name.

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Originally Posted by Patriot
hmmmm.....
Not bad. But red?
Now, if it were blue.....
You want blue? These bikes bear an eerie resemblance to each other. I wonder where Mr. Hairy's paint ideas originated?
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Originally Posted by 55/Rad
What I took away from my conversation with Steve after talking to him back in October....

-The quality is amazing. Bicycling compared his work to Joe Bell, which compares to Acme.
-He's an artist as well as a craftsman - which has been the hangup with Acme since day 1.
-He claims he keeps to his reasonable delivery schedule.
-He's priced competively to the better known high-end options - Acme, Joe Bell, Cyclart etc.
-He sees the value in getting good photos of his work plastered all over the cycling forums.
-He seems like a nice guy - so nice I couldn't remember his name.

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OK, I sat on the "john" looking through my Bicyling magazines to find that article. What the heck has happened? Did you call him? What's the scoop? (Cost, etc.)
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Originally Posted by MICHAELM
OK, I sat on the "john" looking through my Bicyling magazines to find that article. What the heck has happened? Did you call him? What's the scoop? (Cost, etc.)
Hee hee - that's where I read the rag.

I called Steve and sent him the detailed photos. I'm awaiting our next conversation to talk about details and price. Stay tuned.

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Rad - before you go to some guy that lives out in the boondocks remember that Ed Litton in Richmond, CA, is also a great painter. https://www.classicrendezvous.com/USA/Ed_Litton.htm

Ed is most doing restorations these days instead of building frames. He told me and Phil (riding buddy) that he only gets orders for 4 or 5 bikes a year now. But he has a year's backlog of work hanging on the wall in his shop as you can see on the back of his portrait.

For those who go looking for Litton's - be aware that there's no sign on his door. But he always answers the phone if he can get to it. Remember that he might be in the paint booth all dressed up and unable to get to the phone.

About ten years ago he repainted the back half of a friend's Serotta which was colored "Pau Pau Pink" (I seem to recall) and white. Ed matched the colors so perfectly that you couldn't tell where Serotta's paint started and where Ed's did. What's more, ten years later YOU STILL CAN'T!!! Anyone that has ever worked with repair jobs knows that is almost impossible.

I went down there with Phil and he was riding his '75 Raleigh that Ed had replaced the top and down tubes on and repainted after a major accident. The paint on that bike after 18 years looked almost like new save for a few dings here and there from Phil's 4 kids.

I can't recommend Ed too highly.
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Ed is most doing restorations these days instead of building frames. He told me and Phil (riding buddy) that he only gets orders for 4 or 5 bikes a year now. But he has a year's backlog of work hanging on the wall in his shop as you can see on the back of his portrait.
With all due respect, I am DONE with guys who are supposedly so in demand, their turnaround time is ridiculous. No matter how good or how talented.

At least for now.

On July 27, 2004, I delivered a new-to-me (used) Lemond Tete de Course (carbon/ti) frame to Dean Cannard of Acme Paint here in Portland. Dean is an amazing painter who's work is best seen on the Vanilla Bikes website.

My instructions were simple - do something cool and original and do it great. And I gave him a theme. I was told the job would take 3 months and I was good with it.

It's now been 22 full months and he's got me over a barrel. The job is far enough along to not warrant stopping or sending it to someone else but it still needs some work.

And here I sit. Honestly, I have little interest in this frame at this point. I only have disdain for "artists" who can't run a business and seemingly do nothing but share their personal woes as a means of creating excuses.

I want great work, a reasonable timeline and a fair price. Who doesn't?

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[...] I want great work, a reasonable timeline and a fair price. Who doesn't?

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...Such a seemingly simple request.

However, increasingly difficult to achieve within the US labor market.

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Rad, I'm sure that it's not a route you'd like to go down, but Small Claims would probably find in your favor and you could recover the cost of the paint job and damages for lost time with your bike (cost of 2nd frame to replace the Tete.) At least a mention of it could move things along...maybe it's time to forward this question to refer this to "Legally Speaking with Bob Mionske" at Velonews: mionskelaw@hotmail.com. It might make for a good topic on his articles.
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It was Hairy Gary https://www.hairygary.com/.
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