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Old 05-27-06, 07:17 AM
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How much do you give up between a high performance frame (e.g. CAAD 8, Allez) versus a more relaxed fit such as Synapse or Vigorelli? My understanding is that the advantage of the high performance frames is in climbing and accelerating. But over the course of an 80 mile road race, will that really matter?

I am just getting into biking, and want a bike for long weekend rides and eventually the occasional century every few weeks or so. At some point I expect I will also want to participate in some long distance road races. Have zero interest in criterium or short distance sprinting type of events.

I have ridden several bikes in the last few days and really cannot tell much difference in the feel in the 10 minutes or so of test riding. I beginning to think I should buy the best frame I can afford and make sure I get a good fit.
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You can get high performance sprint frames and high performance long distance frames. They will differ in stiffness but will be suited to their own particular style of riding.

We often get questions from riders with race frames asking how to fit fenders or some light luggage. You can do this on a racing-weight frame but it needs a bit of clearance and preferably some threaded eyelets. Just a heads up for you to consider.

Really good day touring frames are a niche served by the many small builders rather than major brands.
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I hope you test ride a titanium frame before buying your bike. I have one and she's a real keeper and good for long rides.
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Originally Posted by JayhawKen
I beginning to think I should buy the best frame I can afford and make sure I get a good fit.
You are correct. Add to that "and that fits my style of riding."

"Long distance" frames may have slacker angles, longer chainstays and other features that make them more comfortable over the long haul. They're also probably not made of Taiwanese plastic.
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Originally Posted by JayhawKen
...But over the course of an 80 mile road race, will that really matter?...
Ultralightweight, tight geometry bikes are also used in all racing, 120 mile races are no exception. Guys riding them can handle it.

I believe what you're looking for is a longer wheel base, relaxed geometry, steel hybrid, with no shocks(excess weight), slightly fatter tires like 28s, and decent components. Research a good Surly. The increased weight in this case, unless you're really into racing, is a minor factor compared with your own performance.
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Your ideal fit will evolve over time. What feels right today will may not be correct when you've put some time in on the bike. Make sure whatever frame you choose has some room for adjustment, both in the saddle (up and down, back and forth) and in the height and reach of the bars.

Bikes that have a more stable ride are generally less fatiguing on long rides. I have two road bikes. One has a shorter wheelbase and a more aggressive setup and the other is longer and the bar is a little higher. The more aggressive setup is fine on rides up to four hours and while I love the snappy handling, it can start to wander on me as I get tired. It just takes a bit more concentration to keep it on line. The other bike with a longer wheelbase is more forgiving and the 1 cm higher bar makes all the difference late in a century ride.
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