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Anonymity between roadies and triathletes (?)

Old 05-30-06, 10:59 PM
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Anonymity between roadies and triathletes (?)

I don't know why, but it seems like theres a huge gap of unspoken tension between those that ride/race road and triathletes. Granted, there are only few similarities between the two sports, but i've been dealt rather hastily by a good number of triathletes. Triathlons have been on the rise lately (esp. for the weekend warriors doing sprint tri's) so i was wondering if anyone has had to deal with this problem.
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Originally Posted by Hoya1500
I don't know why, but it seems like theres a huge gap of unspoken tension between those that ride/race road and triathletes. Granted, there are only few similarities between the two sports, but i've been dealt rather hastily by a good number of triathletes. Triathlons have been on the rise lately (esp. for the weekend warriors doing sprint tri's) so i was wondering if anyone has had to deal with this problem.
it's animosity
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Old 05-30-06, 11:43 PM
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as a road turned triathlete.
Yes. I have seen a problem.
And it is usually from kitted up wheel sucking roadies.
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It's the no drafting thing. There not used to riding/being around other people. I've tried to spark up conversations with a few on the road and have aways got the cold shoulder, total silence in 2 cases. Most roadies I find a little more social even when travelling at far different speeds.
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The problem is that sluggos and tight singlets cut off circulation to the trihards brains.
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Originally Posted by clausen
It's the no drafting thing. There not used to riding/being around other people.
my experience has been that the no drafting thing leads to a super strong, yet super sqirrely rider. one reason why i always try to avoid tri-guys who show up at my weekly circuit race (i spot them by the low cut shorts, no socks, and one strap shoes, gear mashing, and excessive rocking motion )

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Of course there's anonymity! No roadie I've ever known has confessed to being a triathlete!

If however you mean 'animosity', then, well, sure there is. Have you ever seen those big girls attempt to turn a corner? It's the only reason I've ever watched a Tri - to see them stack on the corners.
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LOL

One of the funniest days I ever spent was watching a tri-splatt-athon years ago. Multiple crashes, mostly caused by going too fast, left pedal down on a left hand corner, in the wet, with oil on the corner. Even funnier was that it was on a short course with the swim/bike/run done three times. Some of them crashed three times! Pisser.

I can confirm that sluggos do not offer much protection against road rash
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I've raced and done triathlon. Triathlon is definitely a different culture. Frankly, I think triathlon, at least at the shorter events, is a more open welcoming environment, than bike racing. Everybody's out to do there best, and its more of a solo thing, so there isn't so much cutthroat head to head to competition like in bike racing. I've never heard "watch your gd line, peckerhead" in a triathlon. Riding on group rides with triathletes there can be some friction, because some don't get they shouldn't ride their aerobars, they tend to be weak bike handlers in comparison to aerobic strength, and their expectations on spacing in a pack are different. However, I know a number of triathletes that are perfectly fine bike handlers. Because of the nature of their discipline, they tend to be very strong time trialists, but poor sprinters with no burst of acceleration. So they pull all day, and then are comparitively easy to drop at the town line sprints.
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I think they don't see them as cyclists as we ourselves do. They are TRIATHLETES, and cycling is the price they have to pay.
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It's the iPods and the short socks. We're jealous of the short socks.
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The only animosity I hear of is lack of pack riding skills of triathlete (like cat 4's or 5's are any better????). Well, that, and trying to ride aerobars on group rides.
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I have aero bars on my Cannondale road bike because the previous owner did tri's. I've never done one. Are those bars the reason that when I wave to roadies I get no response back? We're all riding bikes, do we have to ignore others because they have different goals or equipment?
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Originally Posted by dogpound
as a road turned triathlete.
Yes. I have seen a problem.
And it is usually from kitted up wheel sucking roadies.
Usually. And then again sometimes from bonehead tri guys who come on 30mph group rides and think it's smart to ride in such a paceline on their aero bars.

Let's face it, when it comes to dopey behavior, there's plenty to go around all over the place at times.
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Originally Posted by alt+f4
Are those bars the reason that when I wave to roadies I get no response back?
yes

Originally Posted by alt+f4
do we have to ignore others because they have different goals or equipment?
yes
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One of my best pals OFF the bike is a tri-geek. He's really a good athlete -- very fit, former track athlete, quite a bit of strength, coordinated, an excellent swimmer. We've ridden together a few times and he always seems puzzled by what he perceives as our relative parity on bikes. He's only about 5'6" and 145 lbs, and I go 6'5" and 2 balloons even, but I pretty much thrash his butt in the hills (I don't gloat -- externally, that is). On the flats we're pretty even -- he's a horse -- but twists, turns, descents, rollers, cars, critters, conversation, and almost anything mechanically untoward just seem to f___ him up. Basically, anything but a dead-flat loop or out-and-back course messes with his head, at least when I ride with him. That in itself is a problem, since we both live in west Austin. I've seen him compete, and he's decently good, but an earlier poster suggested that cycling is "the price [tri-geeks] have to pay" for participating in their sport. The very things that bring me joy in cycling seem to wig him out. The upshot is that we ride together only rarely. A shame . . .
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Originally Posted by classic1
One of the funniest days I ever spent was watching a tri-splatt-athon years ago. Multiple crashes, mostly caused by going too fast, left pedal down on a left hand corner, in the wet, with oil on the corner. Even funnier was that it was on a short course with the swim/bike/run done three times. Some of them crashed three times! Pisser.
You've got one helluva sense of humor....
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Try playing basketball with a football.

To say that we have to get along like kissing cousins because there's a bike involved in both sports is absurd.

Don't make me wave at everything on spoked wheels.

They are two different sports. Different strokes for different folks.

That said, if a triathlete wants to join our paceline, they need to know how it's done. The minute they show inability or danger, they get pulled out and asked to ride elsewhere.
Just as I would expect to be asked out of their activity if I were doing it wrong, or worse, dangerously.
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There are waaaaaayyyyyyyy more hot female triathletes than roadies.

I (heart) triathletes.
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Here on Oahu, half the time I can't tell the difference. Lots of roadriders use clipons because of the wind, and lots of triathletes use RB apparel.
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We have a mixed training ride every Wednesday night that includes plenty of local tri-dudes and dudettes. The roadies usually rule but one or two of the tri-dudes will still be in the front pack for the last climb honors. There as never been any friction as far as I can remember but, the tri's either don't have geek bars on the bike or don't use them during the ride. For several months last summer we had Matt Brick, an age-graded world champion triathlete doing the ride. He school all....
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We poke fun at what we don't understand. I don't understand a lot of things, and triathletes fall into that category. I don't understand why you would want to swim and run while you have a perfectly good bike (albeit oddly shaped with weird handlebars) to ride.

I did a triathlon when I was in high school. I was on the track team, a decent swimmer, and I loved biking. What could be more fun? A gravel enema. Yes, to me a gravel enema would be much more enjoyable. I did not love the triathlon.

I have complete respect what triathletes do. It's hard. It's punishing. And I can see how people love it.

And I may think triathletes are silly for not spinning, sporting an iPod but no helmet, using aerobars, and wearing shorts with a chamois thinner than a maxi-pad. But I'm lycra-rocking, diaper-wearing, lid-sporting, non-swimming, non-running roadie doofus.

Now lets all get together and make fun of 'bent riders. What's up with them? Kidding, 'bent riders. Just kiddng.
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This has nothing to do with anything really but i found it amusing at the time. There were three of us riding along maybe 18 or 19mph, just kinda chatting. All of the sudden this tri-gal comes blasting by us at probably 25mph. Didn't say anything, had the ipod on, etc. Usually this would cause one or all of us to yell something about on your left, but they way she was riding had us dumbfounded. She had to be doing like 120 on the cadence. She was bouncing around so much on the bike I thought she might crash, but she didn't and just continued on up the road. My buddy just yelled out SPIN! SPIN! SPIN!, I just about fell over. Is this some new tri drill that I haven't heard about?
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Triathletes are just wired wrong.
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