We're going to yell at you.
09-01-15, 04:03 PM
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Without fail the same posters who claim this is some massive ego driven reaction eventually go down the violent retaliation path. Projection?
We aren't talking about some 5 minute diatribe or stare down. Dodge every pebble in the road and eventually I'm gonna yell "damn it hold your line". Fine if you want to yell back at least I know you heard me.
We aren't talking about some 5 minute diatribe or stare down. Dodge every pebble in the road and eventually I'm gonna yell "damn it hold your line". Fine if you want to yell back at least I know you heard me.
09-01-15, 04:06 PM
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Or, you know, just hold your line and carry on.
09-01-15, 08:55 PM
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It would be nice to know if he's positing a sociopath that would be willing to throw down with an entire group ride because someone yelled "hold your line" or if he thinks "yelling" and "being a dick" means something far more sinister.
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09-02-15, 06:38 AM
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Well, you seem to be the, ah, politically correct type. I thought bullying wasn't PC? If you're going to be man enough to bully another adult by being a dick and yelling at him over a bicycle ride you should be man enough to deal with that one guy who wants to beat your ass. I wouldn't, but I would be even more of a dick and yell even louder back. If you kept running your mouth after that then there's no telling where it would go. I get the feeling someone like you shouldn't be yelling at anyone. Don't be Billy Bob Thornton in Tombstone haha
I love that movie and have seen it about 10 times and never realized that weasel was played by Billy Bob Thornton lol
09-02-15, 09:19 AM
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Without fail the same posters who claim this is some massive ego driven reaction eventually go down the violent retaliation path. Projection?
We aren't talking about some 5 minute diatribe or stare down. Dodge every pebble in the road and eventually I'm gonna yell "damn it hold your line". Fine if you want to yell back at least I know you heard me.
We aren't talking about some 5 minute diatribe or stare down. Dodge every pebble in the road and eventually I'm gonna yell "damn it hold your line". Fine if you want to yell back at least I know you heard me.
Until he takes someone down.
I think you can yell without being a dick about it. The thread isn't called "we're going to scream at you". That would be rude.
09-02-15, 10:45 AM
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Not one dangerous rider thinks they're dangerous, or they wouldn't be dangerous. Not one person in a grand fondo on a tri-bike who can't hold a line and weaves all over the place thinks they're dangerous. Not one person in a fast group ride who goes to stand on the pedals for a climb and throws his bike back two feet thinks their skills are weak and could possibly hurt someone else. The ones who care aren't the ones who get all defensive at being told to stop trying to hurt someone.
I've been yelled at for a stupid move, I panicked after losing a bottle after hitting some rumble strips and stopped instead of being not stupid and getting away from the other riders safely. I felt pretty bad about it and made sure to apologize to every jersey I recognized at the next rest stop. I could have seriously hurt someone over a bit of easily replaced plastic, and I deserved it. The whole situation reminded me to stay calm and focused and think. Everyone screws up a little bit here and there, and accidents happen, but sometimes you need to be yelled at to remind you of that.
If you care enough about the other rider's safety you take it the right way, if you don't you puff up your chest and act like someone is questioning your manhood.
I've been yelled at for a stupid move, I panicked after losing a bottle after hitting some rumble strips and stopped instead of being not stupid and getting away from the other riders safely. I felt pretty bad about it and made sure to apologize to every jersey I recognized at the next rest stop. I could have seriously hurt someone over a bit of easily replaced plastic, and I deserved it. The whole situation reminded me to stay calm and focused and think. Everyone screws up a little bit here and there, and accidents happen, but sometimes you need to be yelled at to remind you of that.
If you care enough about the other rider's safety you take it the right way, if you don't you puff up your chest and act like someone is questioning your manhood.
This. In its entirety - spoken by someone who has the self-awareness to focus on improvement (there's always room for that).
I always feel terrible if I even tap the brakes in a paceline...fortunately never caused more than a startled 'whoa' from the rider behind...but it reminds you that there's a bike wheel six inches from you and you can't see it or hear it. Having experienced this from both directions, it's startling to say the least, and that's with people you trust. It's no surprise that riders who understand the benefit and pleasure of riding with "good wheels" will steer very clear of anyone without the experience, self-awareness, and skill to participate.
And, I won't yell at you but we'll definitely talk about you later when you aren't around.
09-02-15, 10:57 AM
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Not pedaling downhill? What is this..
I can understand at 38.5 mph but that is heresy
Also... half wheeling and tailgating
I can understand at 38.5 mph but that is heresy
Also... half wheeling and tailgating
09-02-15, 01:21 PM
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This. In its entirety - spoken by someone who has the self-awareness to focus on improvement (there's always room for that).
I always feel terrible if I even tap the brakes in a paceline...fortunately never caused more than a startled 'whoa' from the rider behind...but it reminds you that there's a bike wheel six inches from you and you can't see it or hear it. Having experienced this from both directions, it's startling to say the least, and that's with people you trust. It's no surprise that riders who understand the benefit and pleasure of riding with "good wheels" will steer very clear of anyone without the experience, self-awareness, and skill to participate.
And, I won't yell at you but we'll definitely talk about you later when you aren't around.
I always feel terrible if I even tap the brakes in a paceline...fortunately never caused more than a startled 'whoa' from the rider behind...but it reminds you that there's a bike wheel six inches from you and you can't see it or hear it. Having experienced this from both directions, it's startling to say the least, and that's with people you trust. It's no surprise that riders who understand the benefit and pleasure of riding with "good wheels" will steer very clear of anyone without the experience, self-awareness, and skill to participate.
And, I won't yell at you but we'll definitely talk about you later when you aren't around.
I even tell folks who ride my wheel that I'll break to scrub a little speed before I'll swerve to avoid contact.
But.... I ride with people who ride for fun and we won't yell at you.
Oh, and we don't go 30.
09-02-15, 02:24 PM
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Not pedaling downhill? What is this..
I can understand at 38.5 mph but that is heresy
Also... half wheeling and tailgating
I can understand at 38.5 mph but that is heresy
Also... half wheeling and tailgating
09-02-15, 04:26 PM
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My comments are directed towards those members who posted that they are dicks.
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09-02-15, 07:04 PM
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So where is the poll tracking the number of people who come into this thread ready to throw down with the "yellers" only to come back six months later to say they finally get it?
11-05-15, 02:59 PM
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Can I yell at people if I'm not in a paceline?
I want to yell, but I almost always am on my own on my commute which is when I get most of my riding done. Would it be acceptable to say, yell at the guy with no tail light at 4:00 AM, in the bike lane of a major street with a 55 MPH speed limit, on a fast descent, who cannot hold his line?
If it is acceptable to yell under these circumstances, can I yell on days that are generally not designated yelling days?
I want to yell, but I almost always am on my own on my commute which is when I get most of my riding done. Would it be acceptable to say, yell at the guy with no tail light at 4:00 AM, in the bike lane of a major street with a 55 MPH speed limit, on a fast descent, who cannot hold his line?
If it is acceptable to yell under these circumstances, can I yell on days that are generally not designated yelling days?
11-05-15, 03:11 PM
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Can I yell at people if I'm not in a paceline?
I want to yell, but I almost always am on my own on my commute which is when I get most of my riding done. Would it be acceptable to say, yell at the guy with no tail light at 4:00 AM, in the bike lane of a major street with a 55 MPH speed limit, on a fast descent, who cannot hold his line?
I want to yell, but I almost always am on my own on my commute which is when I get most of my riding done. Would it be acceptable to say, yell at the guy with no tail light at 4:00 AM, in the bike lane of a major street with a 55 MPH speed limit, on a fast descent, who cannot hold his line?
11-05-15, 03:24 PM
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Understandable, but disappointing. What is cut-off time for the yelling ban in the morning? It might be possible to change my shift to an hour later. If it means that I can add some quality yelling time into my training/commuting program, I will take up the shift change with management.
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11-05-15, 03:27 PM
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I brake often if I get on a wheel that can't hold a constant speed.
I even tell folks who ride my wheel that I'll break to scrub a little speed before I'll swerve to avoid contact.
But.... I ride with people who ride for fun and we won't yell at you.
Oh, and we don't go 30.
I even tell folks who ride my wheel that I'll break to scrub a little speed before I'll swerve to avoid contact.
But.... I ride with people who ride for fun and we won't yell at you.
Oh, and we don't go 30.
If you know they're unsteady, there are multiple ways to deal with it.
If you pay attention to what's up the road, and observe their habits, you know when they're going to slow or surge, and you can adjust your speed and position without braking.
You can soft pedal, you can sit up and take more wind, you can leave a little more gap,you can close gaps slowly and smoothly.
All that is dramatically preferable to hitting the brakes.
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Can I yell at people if I'm not in a paceline?
I want to yell, but I almost always am on my own on my commute which is when I get most of my riding done. Would it be acceptable to say, yell at the guy with no tail light at 4:00 AM, in the bike lane of a major street with a 55 MPH speed limit, on a fast descent, who cannot hold his line?
If it is acceptable to yell under these circumstances, can I yell on days that are generally not designated yelling days?
I want to yell, but I almost always am on my own on my commute which is when I get most of my riding done. Would it be acceptable to say, yell at the guy with no tail light at 4:00 AM, in the bike lane of a major street with a 55 MPH speed limit, on a fast descent, who cannot hold his line?
If it is acceptable to yell under these circumstances, can I yell on days that are generally not designated yelling days?
I am constantly catching myself though yelling "on your left" when I mean to yell "on my left"