Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Road Cycling
Reload this Page >

New E3 seat, sit bones killing me, help?

Search
Notices
Road Cycling “It is by riding a bicycle that you learn the contours of a country best, since you have to sweat up the hills and coast down them. Thus you remember them as they actually are, while in a motor car only a high hill impresses you, and you have no such accurate remembrance of country you have driven through as you gain by riding a bicycle.” -- Ernest Hemingway

New E3 seat, sit bones killing me, help?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 06-04-06, 04:17 PM
  #1  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Rob944's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Posts: 214
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
New E3 seat, sit bones killing me, help?

I just did 30 miles in the rain on the new seat and the last 10 were agony. I have previously used Specialized BG seats but my last one was causing problems to the crease where my legs meet my but. That area gets no friction with the E3 but the area below the sit bones is now very inflammed. This is the first "hard" seat that I have used and I am hoping it is just a matter of getting used to it and breaking it in but, damn its going to be rough. Anyone have a any advice?
Rob944 is offline  
Old 06-04-06, 05:14 PM
  #2  
Eschew Obfuscation
 
SesameCrunch's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: San Francisco Bay Area
Posts: 3,845

Bikes: 2005 Fuji Professional, 2002 Lemond Zurich, Folders - Strida, Merc, Dahon, Downtube, Recumbent folder

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I don't have any advice for you since I don't know your circumstances. However, as someone who owns two E3 Form saddles, I can give you some assurance that they CAN work. Hope you find the right answer.
SesameCrunch is offline  
Old 06-04-06, 06:07 PM
  #3  
Vintage Punk, w/ Damage
 
Eyeseeu's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Front Royal, Virginia
Posts: 309

Bikes: Giant OCR Limited, Planet-X Carbon TT, 70's Paris Sport

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I am using the E3 too, but for me it was comfy from the first ride. Either it will take some getting used to, or hits in a bad spot for you. How soon did it start hurting? Might need a few short rides to see if you will adapt.
__________________
How much ya want for that Classic Huffy?!
I heard Paris Hiltons parents have downgraded her to a Motel 6...
Eyeseeu is offline  
Old 06-05-06, 10:14 AM
  #4  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Rob944's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Posts: 214
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
My sit bones were uncomfortable from the start and just got worse. I'm going to give it some time. Hopefully my but just needs to get used to a hard seat. I have 3 weeks before the tour de cure to get it right.




Originally Posted by Eyeseeu
I am using the E3 too, but for me it was comfy from the first ride. Either it will take some getting used to, or hits in a bad spot for you. How soon did it start hurting? Might need a few short rides to see if you will adapt.
Rob944 is offline  
Old 06-05-06, 10:43 AM
  #5  
Full Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: N. Fla
Posts: 270

Bikes: 86 Schwinn Peloton (under construction)

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I tried the E3 and found it very uncomfortable. Actually, it was fine for the first 15 miles or so, and then AGONY for the rest. It lasted about 3 rides. I found the same thing with the Fizik Arione that replaced it.

If it doesn't get right soon, there's always a Brooks. (Just thought I'd be the first to say that in this saddle thread!)
Downshift is offline  
Old 06-05-06, 10:55 AM
  #6  
Senior Member
 
daver42's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 252
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
When I first rode using the E3, I could feel my sit bones sort of slide back and forth on the seat. Only used it on my 5-mile commute to break it in. After a few days, I found the sweet spot on the seat and my sit bones have been happy ever since. Did a 50-mile ride this past Saturday with no complaints down there. Give it some time. I'd recommend mounting the seat with its rails level. Also, when riding, try starting with your butt as far back in the seat that's comfortable. While you ride, you may naturally progress forward to the right spot.
daver42 is offline  
Old 06-05-06, 11:15 AM
  #7  
cs1
Senior Member
 
cs1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Clev Oh
Posts: 7,091

Bikes: Specialized, Schwinn

Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 225 Post(s)
Liked 24 Times in 22 Posts
Originally Posted by Rob944
I just did 30 miles in the rain on the new seat and the last 10 were agony. I have previously used Specialized BG seats but my last one was causing problems to the crease where my legs meet my but. That area gets no friction with the E3 but the area below the sit bones is now very inflammed. This is the first "hard" seat that I have used and I am hoping it is just a matter of getting used to it and breaking it in but, damn its going to be rough. Anyone have a any advice?
When will you all learn? Can you say Brooks? It ain't new, it ain't trendy, it ain't carbon, and it sure ain't light. It is comfortable. Enough said.

Tim
cs1 is offline  
Old 06-05-06, 11:16 AM
  #8  
Senior Member
 
iNewton's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Baie-Comeau, Québec
Posts: 600

Bikes: Specialized Roubaix Comp '06

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Rob944
I have previously used Specialized BG seats but my last one was causing problems to the crease where my legs meet my but.
Wow, that's my exact seat and exact same problem. You had a small seat?
iNewton is offline  
Old 06-05-06, 02:33 PM
  #9  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Rob944's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Posts: 214
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by daver42
When I first rode using the E3, I could feel my sit bones sort of slide back and forth on the seat. Only used it on my 5-mile commute to break it in. After a few days, I found the sweet spot on the seat and my sit bones have been happy ever since. Did a 50-mile ride this past Saturday with no complaints down there. Give it some time. I'd recommend mounting the seat with its rails level. Also, when riding, try starting with your butt as far back in the seat that's comfortable. While you ride, you may naturally progress forward to the right spot.
Good to hear, thanks. I do have it mounted level. Regarding the Brooks posts, I dont have anything against them but are they not also very hard?
Rob944 is offline  
Old 06-05-06, 02:42 PM
  #10  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Rob944's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Posts: 214
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by iNewton
Wow, that's my exact seat and exact same problem. You had a small seat?

I'm not sure what you mean by a small "seat"? I had and original BG seat and a BG Milano, both about the same size. I'm 6'3 and 195 so my "seat" is not too small I found that the BG's are very comfortable and eliminate any numbness issues. Once I started doing more than 30 miles or so regularly the softness of the seat and the width of the nose of the seat caused the problems with my "creases". Try a seat with a narrow nose.
Rob944 is offline  
Old 06-05-06, 06:48 PM
  #11  
Senior Member
 
iNewton's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Baie-Comeau, Québec
Posts: 600

Bikes: Specialized Roubaix Comp '06

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Rob944
I'm not sure what you mean by a small "seat"?
I was under the impression that the BG specialized saddle came in different sizes, nevermind if not.
I think my problem is I move too much on the saddle though, I may have to tilt the front up a little and play with that. What was your seat angle? Were you level?
iNewton is offline  
Old 06-05-06, 07:36 PM
  #12  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Rob944's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Posts: 214
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by iNewton
I was under the impression that the BG specialized saddle came in different sizes, nevermind if not.
I think my problem is I move too much on the saddle though, I may have to tilt the front up a little and play with that. What was your seat angle? Were you level?

You are correct, the new ones come in different sizes after you get measured on the assmeter Mine came with the bike. I rode it level. If you are getting sores where I was I think it is because the nose of the saddle is too wide. The E3 is great for solving that but it is much harder than the BG.
Rob944 is offline  
Old 06-05-06, 11:53 PM
  #13  
Senior Member
 
Scooped's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: LI,NY
Posts: 214

Bikes: Guru new steel Lotus converted fixed Jamis sputnik

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
This one is very confortable from the start I have about 2-300 mi on it I had a pro link lite that I put on my other bike. Like that one also
Attached Images
File Type: jpg
IMG_0280.JPG (89.6 KB, 61 views)
Scooped is offline  
Old 06-06-06, 06:58 AM
  #14  
Emondafied
 
cydewaze's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Maryland
Posts: 4,939

Bikes: See sig

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 63 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by cs1
it ain't trendy,
Actually, it's probably become the most retro-trendy saddle on earth. I'm sure a Brooks is super-comfy, but I don't know if three weeks is enough for the OP to break one in.
__________________

my bike page - my journal
Current Stable: Trek Emonda SL - Trek Top Fuel 8 - Scattante XRL - Jamis Dakar Expert - Trek 9700 - AlpineStars Al Mega
cydewaze is offline  
Old 06-06-06, 10:55 AM
  #15  
Eschew Obfuscation
 
SesameCrunch's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: San Francisco Bay Area
Posts: 3,845

Bikes: 2005 Fuji Professional, 2002 Lemond Zurich, Folders - Strida, Merc, Dahon, Downtube, Recumbent folder

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by daver42
When I first rode using the E3, I could feel my sit bones sort of slide back and forth on the seat. Only used it on my 5-mile commute to break it in. After a few days, I found the sweet spot on the seat and my sit bones have been happy ever since. Did a 50-mile ride this past Saturday with no complaints down there. Give it some time. I'd recommend mounting the seat with its rails level. Also, when riding, try starting with your butt as far back in the seat that's comfortable. While you ride, you may naturally progress forward to the right spot.
This was exactly the same experience I had when I first got my E3 (last Sept). After finding the sweet spot (towards the back of the saddle), it was very nice. I've since done Centuries in the saddle.

Because of the narrow nose, the "sweet spot" (ie. comfortable sitting area) is pretty small, so this saddle doesn't support a lot of shifting around of your riding position.
SesameCrunch is offline  
Old 06-06-06, 11:16 AM
  #16  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Rob944's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Posts: 214
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I sent an email to Josh Cohen and he responded. His advice is to give it some time, keep it level and make sure the sit bones are over the widest part of the seat. He also recommended moving around on the seat and standing regularly regardless of the seat. Nice guy. I 'm going to try some shorter rides and see how it goes. Thanks for the help everyone.
Rob944 is offline  
Old 06-06-06, 12:08 PM
  #17  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Northern Va.
Posts: 61

Bikes: Fuji Roubaix Pro & Performance Aurora

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I use the E3 form and not the gel seat. I love mine. I guess I got lucky from the get go. No pain what so ever. Just make sure that puppy is indeed level. I have about 100 miles on mine so far and no complaints.
rsty2fan is offline  
Old 06-06-06, 12:28 PM
  #18  
Senior Member
 
Monoborracho's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Small town America with lots of good roads
Posts: 2,710

Bikes: More than I really should own.

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 205 Post(s)
Liked 20 Times in 18 Posts
Originally Posted by cs1
When will you all learn? Can you say Brooks? It ain't new, it ain't trendy, it ain't carbon, and it sure ain't light. It is comfortable. Enough said.

Tim

I broke with my tradition and bought a flat bar road bike last weekend, a Fuji Absolute. I got it all gussied up with bottle holders, and nearly new Cateye from a mountain bike, took the old SPD's off my tourer, and took off for 30 miles of (to me) higher speeds.

Three blocks from the house I turn around, strip the Brooks B-67 off the tourer also (it really looks sad now) and head out with no problems. Amazing the difference.

Am ordering a new B-17, Flyer, or maybe a B-67 today to fit the new bike.

Why hurt when you don't have too?
Monoborracho is offline  
Old 06-21-06, 09:21 PM
  #19  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Rob944's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Posts: 214
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Well I gave it about 100 miles and the pain was only getting worse. I downloaded Josh Cohen's book about how to choose a bike seat and went to the LBS to get measured with the Specialized assmeter (I dont know what they call it). Anyway, I ended up with a Specialized Avatar 143. It is wider than the E3 and slightly more padded but much more comfortable for me. I have 3 rides in and it looks like it will be a winner.
Rob944 is offline  
Old 06-22-06, 12:19 PM
  #20  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Elk Grove, CA
Posts: 97

Bikes: None Yet

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
E3 was my fourth saddle and it works for me.... I echo 100% the comments on small sweet spot and saddle adjustment being _CRITICAL_. I had to go back and slanted down quite a bit. It definitely hits me in a different spot than the Arione did. I was going to go the Specialized route next, then Brooks as an absolute last resort. However, the E3 works awesome for me!

Not all butts fit all seats... the E3 was such a cheap experiment it was difficult NOT to try it.
dspyder is offline  
Old 06-22-06, 01:59 PM
  #21  
BF Risk Manager
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Snohomish County, Washington USA
Posts: 906

Bikes: Road, mountain and folding

Mentioned: 9 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 21 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts
I bought one on a lark a few weeks ago when Performance was selling them at $ 29 rather than $ 75. After dialing it in a bit, I have to say this is my most comfortable saddle yet.
MillCreek is offline  
Old 07-16-06, 08:04 PM
  #22  
.
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Hillsboro, Oregon
Posts: 3,981

Bikes: Specialized Roubaix Comp, Soma ES

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Got mine this weekend and put 75 miles on it today. I had a lot of adjusting to do before it became comfortable. The first 30-40 miles was hell. I had to put it forward a bunch, raise it about a quarter of an inch and tilt it every so slightly down at the nose. It worked. I did the 75 and had no ill effects. The level position was painful in the places that it shouldn't be. I think I would try it level first though. Your mileage may vary.
knobster is offline  
Old 07-16-06, 08:29 PM
  #23  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: SC
Posts: 297

Bikes: Trek Emonda SL5, Trek Fuel EX7, Specialized Roubaix Elite

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 17 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 20 Times in 10 Posts
To get mine dialed in I had to push it farther forward than other saddles. Also, the best position for me is to have the very nose slightly pointed up.
bung is offline  

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.