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Recovery Riding...it only took 12 years

Old 06-06-06, 02:19 PM
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Recovery Riding...it only took 12 years

For me to discover that if I didn't chase every rider on the road on my "long easy days" I would be able to hang with the climbers and most of the A group guys on the harder ride days.

Well, duh.

Not sure why I posted this...kind of like ARA (Aggressive Riding Anonymous)

The confession makes the recovery real!

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Old 06-06-06, 03:07 PM
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meh, most folks never ride enough to need "recovery" riding, have to get out of base mileage mode and into actual training first
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Old 06-07-06, 05:39 AM
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You aren't stronger immediately after a hard workout. You become stronger over time during the recovery period between workouts. "Active recovery" is an easy ride that actually speeds the recovery process between workouts. If you go too hard during a recovery ride, you can do more harm than good.

If you go too hard during a recovery ride, then you can't go hard enough during your next workout ride because you haven't fully recovered. So you don't get the full benefit of the workout.

Then, when you aren't progressing as fast as you think you should be, you think you aren't training hard enough. So you increase the frequency or intensity of your workouts, and you shorten or eliminate the recovery. And the problem gets worse.

I have heard many coaches/trainers over the years say that one of the most common mistakes athletes make is to go too hard on their easy days, and too easy on their hard days.

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^^very true, and if you look at most "training" programs and start adding up the mileage numbers you will see that the average rec rider doing maybe 3-3k per year wont benefit much from recovery riding, nothing to recover from.......they would end up doing nothing but recovery mileage LOL which in that case would be slow speed zone 1 and 2, the miles add up very very quickly to more than what many claim to be recovering from
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Originally Posted by zensuit
For me to discover that if I didn't chase every rider on the road on my "long easy days" I would be able to hang with the climbers and most of the A group guys on the harder ride days.

Well, duh.

Not sure why I posted this...kind of like ARA (Aggressive Riding Anonymous)

The confession makes the recovery real!

Z
LOL

Dude I just bought a new set of irons...I think I am slipping back into the void.
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Oh no! I guess with the increase in driving distance experienced by most pros, the GEA guys will be hitting it 350 now! Lol.

My goal this year is to put in enough miles to race next year...but who knows, the family seems to want me to do stuff and earn a living!

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True about the mileage Ped, but when you have limited time to train, even short days can be hard enough to warrant letting the body recover...
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well, biking is about as unforgiving as it gets, no free lunches, any lack of training will immediately be profoundly seen and felt out on the course, trying to squeeze in training here and there wherever you can becomes quite obvious very quickly

I think its become fashionable to use the term "recovery ride" even when it isnt applicable instead of saying "I went out to get more base mileage".
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Originally Posted by pedex
well, biking is about as unforgiving as it gets, no free lunches, any lack of training will immediately be profoundly seen and felt out on the course, trying to squeeze in training here and there wherever you can becomes quite obvious very quickly

I think its become fashionable to use the term "recovery ride" even when it isnt applicable instead of saying "I went out to get more base mileage".
You aren't kidding about not being able to hang when the riding is squeezed in here and there. I can hang with anybody for a while, but the lack of serious base mileage kills me after a while and my reserves are gone suddenly at some tiny rise in the road...leaving me 50% of the ride to "recover"....lol
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Originally Posted by Bobby Lex
You aren't stronger immediately after a hard workout. You become stronger over time during the recovery period between workouts. "Active recovery" is an easy ride that actually speeds the recovery process between workouts. If you go too hard during a recovery ride, you can do more harm than good.

If you go too hard during a recovery ride, then you can't go hard enough during your next workout ride because you haven't fully recovered. So you don't get the full benefit of the workout.

Then, when you aren't progressing as fast as you think you should be, you think you aren't training hard enough. So you increase the frequency or intensity of your workouts, and you shorten or eliminate the recovery. And the problem gets worse.

I have heard many coaches/trainers over the years say that one of the most common mistakes athletes make is to go too hard on their easy days, and too easy on their hard days.

Bob
Excellent advice. It took me too long to find this out for myself.

BTW I laugh at some of the posts here on recovery rides. Some people post their hr and speeds for recovery. If that's true, I wonder why I don't see their names in the Velonews race report.
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