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Morgul Bismark?

Old 06-08-06, 07:40 PM
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Morgul Bismark?

https://cgi.ebay.com/MORGUL-BISMARK-2...ayphotohosting

What do you guys think about this? My friend just bought it. What is the size in CM? a 54?
Never heard of "Morgul Bismark" before.
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Old 06-08-06, 08:25 PM
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Anybody? THis is pretty urgent. Is this too good to be true?
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I don't know too much about them, but one of the guys on our team rides one. His is the only one that I've seen.
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Do you think it's safe? And what size is this?
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Old 06-08-06, 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by RatherBeBiking
Do you think it's safe? And what size is this?
Those kind of questions can't be answered just by looking at some pictures. Personally I wouldn't pay $500 bucks for it, but thats just me.
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Originally Posted by RatherBeBiking
What is the size in CM? a 54?
Based on their measurement:

FRAME SIZE , FROM BOTTOM BRACKET TO TOP OF SEAT POST TUBE IS 24"
That equates to about 61cm. But since they apparently measured to the top of the seat tube I would think it was effectively a 58 or 59 cm sized frame. It definitely looks bigger than a 54 cm frame to me.
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I found this info on another forum...

A brief history:

The Morgul Bismark was a stage of the now defunct Coors Classic stage race. The stage was just outside of Boulder, near what is now Rock Creek, and included infamous features like the 'Hump' and 'Wall'. The course played a supporting role in the movie "American Flyers" where it was one of the stages in the fictional "Hell of the West". After the Coors Classic no longer existed, Davis Phinney and some other people opened a shop on University Hill in Boulder, called 'Morgul Bismark'- the site now houses Al's Barber Shop. Following the closure of the bicycle shop, Rainbow Cyclecraft of Niwot purchased the rights to the Morgul-Bismark name from Phinney, and began to produce bicycles.

The bicycles were originally exclusively distributed by OilMe bikes in Niwot. The first year of production was 1998, when, to my knowledge, they offered only two models. One was a Taiwanese Kinesis aluminum (built with Easton 7000 series) the other was a Nobilette made 853 steel ride. These bikes were ridden by the Oilme mens and Celestial Seasonings womens professional teams- and enjoyed some pretty decent results in 1998.

In 1999 they lined up more models, a more aggressive model, I think called the Zinger, a 'cross model (which was again, a Kinesis 'cross bike badged as a Morgul) which I think was called the Mongrel, a TT specific model, a ti model and maybe another one. After 1998, most of these bikes were sold by Pro Peleton in Boulder. Most of the higher-end (those that are not Kinesis) were built by well respected Boulder area builders. Mark Nobilette did some of them, the one you have, with bladed seatstays was probably built by the guys who worked at the former GT R&D facility in Longmont. They are the same people who built the Olympic 'Superbikes'. Either way, it's a pretty good quality ride.
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Originally Posted by rkymthiker
I found this info on another forum...

A brief history:

The Morgul Bismark was a stage of the now defunct Coors Classic stage race. The stage was just outside of Boulder, near what is now Rock Creek, and included infamous features like the 'Hump' and 'Wall'. The course played a supporting role in the movie "American Flyers" where it was one of the stages in the fictional "Hell of the West". After the Coors Classic no longer existed, Davis Phinney and some other people opened a shop on University Hill in Boulder, called 'Morgul Bismark'- the site now houses Al's Barber Shop. Following the closure of the bicycle shop, Rainbow Cyclecraft of Niwot purchased the rights to the Morgul-Bismark name from Phinney, and began to produce bicycles.

The bicycles were originally exclusively distributed by OilMe bikes in Niwot. The first year of production was 1998, when, to my knowledge, they offered only two models. One was a Taiwanese Kinesis aluminum (built with Easton 7000 series) the other was a Nobilette made 853 steel ride. These bikes were ridden by the Oilme mens and Celestial Seasonings womens professional teams- and enjoyed some pretty decent results in 1998.

In 1999 they lined up more models, a more aggressive model, I think called the Zinger, a 'cross model (which was again, a Kinesis 'cross bike badged as a Morgul) which I think was called the Mongrel, a TT specific model, a ti model and maybe another one. After 1998, most of these bikes were sold by Pro Peleton in Boulder. Most of the higher-end (those that are not Kinesis) were built by well respected Boulder area builders. Mark Nobilette did some of them, the one you have, with bladed seatstays was probably built by the guys who worked at the former GT R&D facility in Longmont. They are the same people who built the Olympic 'Superbikes'. Either way, it's a pretty good quality ride.
Yeah, I had a friend who raced Cat 2 on one of these. He liked it a lot -- better than his Serrotta at the time...

I thought they made them earlier than '98, but it sounds like you know your history pretty well
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I went to that shop a few times in the early 90s when I lived in Boulder. As I recall there were a lot of Serottas in the shop.

In fact I think I bought a Suntour derailleur there once.
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