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Old 06-14-06, 12:08 PM
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Colnago Classic?

I've got a line on a 6 year old Colnago classic, less than $1,000. Not sure what gruppo yet, but I believe the frame is worth more than the asking price. Does anyone have any words of wisdom as to what to look for on it, anything I should note before a test ride, anything like that? I have only seen a few Colnago's in this neck of the woods and ridden exactly zero. I'm thinking it might be a helluva deal, but not sure where the 'Classic' fell into their line-up...

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The classic is somewhat the descendant of the Superissimo. It's an entry level Colnago. But a Colnago is still a Colnago. It is "entry level" only because it uses Columbus Zona tubing (compare to the misterious DT15V star shaped tubing of the Master). It should have the same geometry, handling, and comfort the Master have.

The frame only worth less than $1000, maybe around $700 for a new frame. Could be a good deal at $1000 if the frame is not damaged and it comes with a good set of wheels.
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I never 'got' what was so impressive about Colnago - could someone explain it to me?
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Originally Posted by ElJamoquio
I never 'got' what was so impressive about Colnago - could someone explain it to me?
The same thing that is impressive about a Rolex, whatever that is.
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Originally Posted by fmw
The same thing that is impressive about a Rolex, whatever that is.
Well they are both brands that I lusted after in my younger days. When I started cycling in the early 80's Colnago was the frame everyone aspired to owning. Likewise until I found timezone.com and started doing research into mechanical watches, I assumed Rolex was the end all be all of watches. With a little research into both brands I think most people will find that there are better bikes/watches available for less money. However, to the uneducated masses out there.. riding by on a Colnago with a Rolex watch on your wrist will yell,, Hes got money. To me it yells, hes got more money than sense.
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I have a 1982 Super and it is one of the nicest bikes I own. I did change out the old steel fork which really screwed up the handling but I expect yours to have a better fork in it.
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Originally Posted by ElJamoquio
I never 'got' what was so impressive about Colnago - could someone explain it to me?
My C40 is a so-so handling bike on the flats and even though it's a pretty light bike it doesn't climb any better than some of my other bikes that are heavier.

But DESCENDING! Wow, it is soooo solid that I can go around corners a lot faster than with any other bike.

There are horses for courses and I can see why professional racers would choose a bike like a C40 when you can save so much time on a descent with it.
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Cycling is many things to many people...

To me a Colnago represents the soul of Italian cycling heritage, If this means nothing to you that's OK too... Cycling is a lot of things to a lot of people.

Do they make good a bike? Most definitely.
Can a better bike be bought? At this level I doubt it because "better" is totall subjective at this point.
Can an equal quality bike be had for less money, most definitely.

What you want is all up to you.
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Originally Posted by ElJamoquio
I never 'got' what was so impressive about Colnago - could someone explain it to me?
What is "so impressive" about Colnago is his long and continuous presence in the pro peloton. I don't know other brand that was ridden by so many champions Merckx included. (Bianchi is older but has an interrupted presence in the pro peloton). Does it make Colnago better bikes? No. Are they overpriced? Yes, like all bikes that cost more than $2000 IMHO. Also, unlike many other manufacturers Colnago limits his production to middle and high range bikes.

As other mentioned Colnago became a symbol in bike industry.
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I got my used mid-90s Colnago Masterlight with Campy Veloce parts hanging on it for about $800 USD. The Classic you are looking at is probably as old as my ride. If I remember correctly there's less chrome on the Classic (painted lugs and stays). I wouldn't pay more than $500 for the frame/fork and chances are you will replace the dated, worn parts.
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Originally Posted by ViperZ
Cycling is many things to many people...

To me a Colnago represents the soul of Italian cycling heritage, If this means nothing to you that's OK too... Cycling is a lot of things to a lot of people.

Do they make good a bike? Most definitely.
Can a better bike be bought? At this level I doubt it because "better" is totall subjective at this point.
Can an equal quality bike be had for less money, most definitely.

What you want is all up to you.
That's pretty well said. For me the soul of Italian cycling heritage is a fellow named Fausto Coppi (at least cycling heritage in my lifetime.) I think he rode a Bianchi most of the time, didn't he?
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Originally Posted by fmw
That's pretty well said. For me the soul of Italian cycling heritage is a fellow named Fausto Coppi (at least cycling heritage in my lifetime.) I think he rode a Bianchi most of the time, didn't he?
Coppi is great too as is Bianchi for representing "Italian", if that's what it represents to you that's awesome.

For me it was Eddy Merckx when he rode Colnagos. Additionally a Colnago, to me, has always been the Ferrari of Bicycles, even before Ernesto partnered with Enzo. The parallels of a Colnago being the Ferrari of Italian bicycles is synominous, and to me, is as Italian as you can get.

Of course all this may mean jack to anybody else, and I can accept that. We can't all think or like the same things. And I can appreciate if nobody else cares, we all have our dream bikes. To me the day I own my dream full Italian Colnago (classic or cutting edge), I will have my dream bike, that day will happen!







Love them or hate them, I think they make a fine bicycle too There must be a reason why I collect more pictures of Colnagos, than any other bicycle?
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But Eddy Merckx is a Belgian, not an Italian. Coppi was an Italian.
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Originally Posted by fmw
But Eddy Merckx is a Belgian, not an Italian. Coppi was an Italian.
Sure, but that's when I knew I wanted an Italian bicycle... Remember, many things to many people?
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Originally Posted by ViperZ






There must be a reason why I collect more pictures of Colnagos, than any other bicycle?
In the 2004 Giro DVD, Ernesto appears on the podium next to Popyvich when the latter took the Maglia Rosa by winning the ITT.

Here's a great interview with Ernesto with lots of info on Eddy.
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Thanks Pigmode, I had read parts of that article before... Thanks for reminding me.

That 2004 Giro DVD would be great to see.
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Originally Posted by Baggsy
I've got a line on a 6 year old Colnago classic, less than $1,000. Not sure what gruppo yet, but I believe the frame is worth more than the asking price.
Frameset can be purchased new for around $12-1300. 6 year olds are worth $5-750 depending on condition. Still, depending on the build, sounds like it could be a great deal.

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Originally Posted by cebrefreveil
The classic is somewhat the descendant of the Superissimo. It's an entry level Colnago. But a Colnago is still a Colnago. It is "entry level" only because it uses Columbus Zona tubing (compare to the misterious DT15V star shaped tubing of the Master). It should have the same geometry, handling, and comfort the Master have.

The frame only worth less than $1000, maybe around $700 for a new frame. Could be a good deal at $1000 if the frame is not damaged and it comes with a good set of wheels.

Sounds about right. I was looking at a Superissimo in the early '90s when I wanted to replace my '80s Master. My poor memory seems to recall the Super being built with Brain tubing (OS .8-.5-.8 main tubes) and came with a curved fork, while the Master Olympic was already pushing ahead with straight blades. My limited impression is that the steel frames from this period tend to be smoother riding than many modern steel frames that are pushing the limits of OS demensions and thinner wall thicknesses.

IMO, the best way to get into a steel Colnago is NOS or used to avoid the premium pricing. 'Nags have always been solid well behaved bikes due to their unusually slack front end geometry.


Originally Posted by ViperZ
Thanks Pigmode, I had read parts of that article before... Thanks for reminding me.

That 2004 Giro DVD would be great to see.

Yup, the '04 Giro was definitely an exciting race.
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I have a '96 Basso Loto made from EL slightly oversized tubing and it rides perfectly. In my size (62 cm) it has no faults. It is so smooth and clean that the only steel bike that rides as well is my '82 Colnago Super with the carbon fork.
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Originally Posted by cyclintom
I have a '96 Basso Loto made from EL slightly oversized tubing and it rides perfectly. In my size (62 cm) it has no faults. It is so smooth and clean that the only steel bike that rides as well is my '82 Colnago Super with the carbon fork.
I've always wanted an EL-OS frame. The Tomassini Techno (EL-OS) was one of the bikes I was looking at back then. I ended up with a Ritchey Road Logic instead, one of the sweetest riding steel frames I've ever owned, but I didn't quite take to its handling. FWIW, I've been riding a new custom steel frame/fork lately, built with a conservative tubeset (.8-.5-.8 main tubes). Even with the steel fork it is noticably smoother than my Colnago Master Light/w carbon fork. They say that a carbon fork should mute road buzz better than a steel fork, but not in this case (shrugs). Both bikes have the same rims and tires although the Colnago has 32 spokes and the new bike has 36. My guess is that the quill stem on the new bike provides a certain level of shock absorbtion.
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