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Ritterview 06-28-06 10:36 AM

Pics of 2007 Campy Record Components
 
Cycling news has a story on the Wilier Triestina bicycle company centenary, and a photo feature on a new Wilier, which looks very nice. Their photo review has shots of the the new 2007 Campy Record components.

See story:
http://www.cyclingnews.com/tech.php?...lier_centenary


http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/20...er_cento_5.jpg

Campagnolo's new Record 2007 crank - this is the compact version of the new Ultra-Torque design which Campagnolo will roll out from the Mirage group up.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/20...er_cento_8.jpg

Campagnolo's new outboard bearings and Ultra-Torque hollow, oversized axle.


http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/20...er_cento_6.jpg

A closer look at Campagnolo's new Record 2007 rear brake.

pathdoc 06-28-06 10:46 AM

That makes me feel great seeing how I spent nearly $2K on a 2006 Campy Record groupo last week. :(

Ritterview 06-28-06 11:09 AM

That makes me feel great seeing how I spent nearly $2K on a 2006 Campy Record groupo last week.

Well, I got a 2006 Campy Record group on my BMC last month, however, I sent them my old Centaur crankset and BB to install, so that when the 2007 Ultra-Torque crankset and BB become available I'll have those at least. But those brakes are nice (and weigh 250 grams instead of 300).

Wood 06-28-06 11:29 AM

Wow. Those brakes look nice. Sort of like the zero gravity brakes but more elegant. I wonder what the front brake looks like being that it is most likely double pivot?

Woody

DrPete 06-28-06 11:33 AM

Are those prototype chainrings or something? As cool as the brakes and cranks look, the chainrings look LAME.

Drpete

merlinextraligh 06-28-06 11:44 AM

Am I the only one, or do the swirls in the carbon in the crank make it look like a marble/resin vaninty in cheap residential construction?

Ritterview 06-28-06 11:48 AM


are all their cranks going with outboard bearings?
Yes:
Perhaps most remarkable is that Campagnolo appears to be planning to introduce the new design right through its range, rather than starting with Record and trickling down.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/tech.php?...006/news/05-12

Also see:

http://www.cyclingnews.com/tech.php?id=tech/2006/news/06-02

http://www.campyonly.com/rumors.html

Computer view of the Ultra-Torque design:

http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/20...emeMC_2pz3.jpg

Grasschopper 06-28-06 11:50 AM

Oh I can't wait for that...I AM getting those cranks and probably the brakes too. Anyone know the street date of this stuff?

shakeNbake 06-28-06 11:56 AM

Cranks look tacky.

operator 06-28-06 12:03 PM

Wow that bike is so... ugly :D

cuda2k 06-28-06 12:42 PM

Does this mean I'm going to have to buy an 06 Crank now and the rest of my Campy group next year to get a crank arm that isn't trying to replicate the look of a 70's surf board?

DrPete 06-28-06 12:44 PM

After a closer look at the cranks, you're right. Whole thing is lame. Just slap a pair of Zero Gravity cranks on your 07 Record bike...

DrPete

brianallan 06-28-06 01:00 PM

i must say, there's nothing in carbon that looks as good as campy's record cranks. Pictures are deceptive, but in person they're beautiful.

Fox Farm 06-28-06 01:09 PM

The chain rings look the same as current Record compact. The out board desing looks like they are following current trends. For the guy who just plunked down $ for Record, don't worry. You will be plenty happy. I bought Record carbon compact last year and it's a nice set up and plenty stiff. It was also a lot less than the list price of that crank. I think I paid about $330. I am sure that the new Record carbon crank will sell for the list price for at least a year, probably $600.

Patriot 06-28-06 01:12 PM

Actually, I like the crankset.

Here's why.

1. I like the larger hollowed out spindle, which naturally allows for less weight, and a stiffer platform to transfer torque.

2. The outboard beaings, though still out on my jury, seem to be the way the industry is moving in respect to making BB's that are stiffer and last longer. Even though I think the old design was fine.

3. I like the chainrings. I like how they don't look like my compound miter saw. Everyone wants to copy Shimano. They look like chainrings, as they should. The design of them gives me sort of a retro feel that I think is very classy.

4. And, I have always liked Campy's carbon layup. Everyone else, except the FSA SLK, tends to use the regular carbon cloth surface design. Campy doesn't do that.

All in all, I think it will be a success. I'm interested in any weight specs. Does anyone have any ideas?

I am also interested in the shifter and rear der designs. I'd like to see if they changed that as well.

pigmode 06-28-06 01:17 PM

Those brakes look harder to keep clean.

DocRay 06-28-06 02:00 PM


Originally Posted by Patriot
Actually, I like the crankset.

Here's why.

1. I like the larger hollowed out spindle, which naturally allows for less weight, and a stiffer platform to transfer torque.

2. The outboard beaings, though still out on my jury, seem to be the way the industry is moving in respect to making BB's that are stiffer and last longer. Even though I think the old design was fine.

4. And, I have always liked Campy's carbon layup. Everyone else, except the FSA SLK, tends to use the regular carbon cloth surface design. Campy doesn't do that.

The hollow axled cranks are marginally lighter, but I doubt they will be significantly stiffer.
Outboard bearing cranks use cheaper to produce bearings, and they appear to not last any longer than ISIS or square taper.
My FSA SLKs have the same marbled carbon layup as Record.

I was disspointed, I thought Campagnolo would have some better design cues than what they ended up with. I think the days of buying a whole group are gone, but I'm really interested in FSA's new gruppo for 2007. One thing we do know is that the 07 stuff will be reliable.

acape 06-28-06 02:12 PM


Originally Posted by merlinextraligh
Am I the only one, or do the swirls in the carbon in the crank make it look like a marble/resin vaninty in cheap residential construction?

Yeah, I was wondering myself how much the marble cranks weighed.

acape 06-28-06 02:13 PM

And I don't like that font as much as the cool cursive one.

f.gump 06-28-06 02:46 PM

The Record crankset will be 690g all included.

telenick 06-28-06 02:49 PM

http://idata.over-blog.com/0/02/72/1..._crankset3.jpg
http://idata.over-blog.com/0/02/72/1..._crankset1.jpg
http://idata.over-blog.com/0/02/72/1...tratorque1.jpg
http://idata.over-blog.com/0/02/72/1...tratorque2.jpg
http://idata.over-blog.com/0/02/72/1...tratorque3.jpg
http://idata.over-blog.com/0/02/72/1..._ergopower.jpg
Shifters internals from any group should be quite much improved to reduce the distance needed to upshift from 3 centimeters to 1 centimeters. They'll be named as QS standing for Quick Shift.
Some rumors tell that only RECORD and CHORUS shifters will still keep the current downshift thump button to drop as many gears as wanted. The others groups will only be able to drop one gear...

Ritterview 06-28-06 02:54 PM


The hollow axled cranks are marginally lighter, but I doubt they will be significantly stiffer.
http://www.campyonly.com/rumors/2006/ultratorque.html


http://www.campyonly.com/rumors/2006..._txt_blbnr.gif
Apparently from Campagnolo (May 10, 2006):

"May 10, 2006 - Campagnolo unveils Ultra-Torque, the system that combines the crankset and bottom bracket in a single component, available in various versions in the Campagnolo 2007 range.

The road bike market has been waiting for a response from Campagnolo on cranksets for some time and Campagnolo had reiterated that it would not resort to systems already in existence as they do not meet its desired standards. The times are now mature and the result is truly remarkable.

Ultra-Torque

Ultra-Torque is the name given to the new range of Campagnolo cranksets and immediately puts the spotlight on the extraordinary ability of this crankset-bottom bracket combo to transfer torque. Both cranks have a bottom bracket semi-axle integral with them in such a way as to form two "Ls"; these are then joined in the middle of the bottom bracket shell by means of a Hirth joint. The two semi-axles have a large section so as to be light and rigid at the same time. The Hirth joint which joins them is known for its use in the automobile field where it is used to join together pieces of engine shafts which develop enormous power. This solution has made it possible to unite the two bottom bracket axles and transform them into an extremely rigid assembly. The Hirth joint is self-centring and self-aligning and is kept in one piece by a screw which preloads the assembly to over 500 kg.

Greater lightness

Campagnolo cranksets which adopt the Ultra-Torque system will be 100 grams lighter on average than their 2006 crankset-bottom bracket equivalent. Such a weight saving has been obtained thanks to the new crank design and the "Ultra-Torque" solution for the integrated bottom bracket.

Greater torsional and lateral rigidity

The Ultra-Torque system has been designed to obtain a markedly superior result in terms of torsional and lateral rigidity compared with the previous and already excellent Campagnolo system. The two semi-axles, joined together by a Hirth joint, form an extremely rigid assembly capable of transferring very high torque values.

Q factor and lateral dimensions unchanged

The Q factor remains identical to the value which set apart the cranksets in the 2006 range. If this is already an excellent result in itself, it is even better when you discover that there has been no increase in the lateral dimensions of the cranks. Unlike other manufacturers who because they use external bearings were obliged to increase the dimensions of the cranks in the interface zone with the bottom bracket axle, Campagnolo was able to overcome the problem by resorting to semi-axles. This is because this solution allows the bearings to be inserted from the internal connecting point and therefore significantly increase the diameter of the interface between the semi-axles and cranks. The result is that the cranks can be flatter in the connection zone with the same static strength and life cycle, thereby compensating for the greater thickness of the external cups. Thanks to the Ultra-Torque system the cyclist will not experience any reduction in the space available and will not be obliged to make reparatory adjustments such as repositioning the pedal cleats to prevent rubbing between shoe ormalleolus and the middle part of the crank.

Extremely low rotation friction


Rotation friction is extremely low with the Ultra-Torque system thanks to the quality of the bearings used, the seal system, the refined design and the constructive rationality.

Fast and simple installation

Installing an Ultra-Torque crankset on your bike is amazingly straightforward: it involves screwing the two cups onto the frame and joining the two cranks together by means of a single screw. It's as easy as that! With an eye on standardization that makes life simpler, Campagnolo decided to use tools already in existence. The cups are screwed in using tools available on the market and only a normal 10 mm socket wrench is needed to tighten the cranks.

Fast and simple maintenance


The crankset can be disassembled in just a few seconds: unscrew the screw which unites the two semi-axles using the 10 mm socket wrench; pull the cranks off the bottom bracket shell; clean and lubricate the bearings again; and that's that!"

Cromulent 06-28-06 02:55 PM


Originally Posted by merlinextraligh
Am I the only one, or do the swirls in the carbon in the crank make it look like a marble/resin vaninty in cheap residential construction?

Or a bowling ball.

corn oil 06-28-06 02:55 PM

I think it looks fantastic...I'll take the marble look anyday.


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