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15 yr old tubular wheels -- worth anything?

Old 07-09-06, 05:52 PM
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15 yr old tubular wheels -- worth anything?

If these wheels are worth something, then I'd probably sell them. If not I might fix them up and ride them.

Alloy 36 spoke presta tubular wheels. Nisi Moncalier rims. No rust or bent spokes. Rear has a a pretty low range (racing) 5 speed on it. Hutchison supersprint tubular tires are glued on. Front tire looks ok (but well used) and rear doesn't hold air. They are impressively light, but not sure of exact weight.

Are these worth $US80+?
I've never ridden on tubulars, and though im not allergic to speed, the most intriguing promise of these for me is comfort. What's involved in fixing them up?
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If they are that old, they may only be 120 or 126 spacing, which means you cannot use them on most current bikes.. Because of the rear spacing they are not worth much. You may be able to sell them in the vintage parts category on ebay. someone may be putting together a vintage bike that they would work well on.. 80.00 seems a little high..

If they have a 5 speed freewheel, they may be more like 20-25 years old..
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If thhey are 700c hold on to them for a couple weeks and if i got the money then ill take them off your hands. Would be perfect for my raleigh.

If possible post some pics.
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What exactly is it? 14-22?
I'd be interested, too. Pretty nice wheels. I believe I see them go for about that much -perhaps a little shy of that $80? Could be 40 years old.

They're probably fine to ride as-is. Make sure the glue/tire is holding
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Originally Posted by sunofsand
What exactly is it? 14-22?
I'd be interested, too. Pretty nice wheels. I believe I see them go for about that much -perhaps a little shy of that $80? Could be 40 years old.

They're probably fine to ride as-is. Make sure the glue/tire is holding
yes 14-22. 700cc. both rims are 7/8ths wide at the base, and curve into a gentle u shape. come wtih QR skewers. I don't know the real age... but because they are alloy, I assumed it was 15ish yrs old.

front bolt from edge to edge is 115mm
back bolt is 140mm. The gear cogs do have some rust.

They came off an Olmo frame (super light steel) which I was thinking of outfitting with something a little more idiot proof, and without QR, but if the wheels are very non standard, I should keep them with the bike, and make this my babysitted bike.
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Originally Posted by socalrider
If they are that old, they may only be 120 or 126 spacing, which means you cannot use them on most current bikes.. Because of the rear spacing they are not worth much. You may be able to sell them in the vintage parts category on ebay. someone may be putting together a vintage bike that they would work well on.. 80.00 seems a little high..

If they have a 5 speed freewheel, they may be more like 20-25 years old..
measured the inside of the forks. 100mm on front... the bike is in the shed and I had to stretch to measure and got a reading of 123mm on the back ... doh . It would make most sense for it to be 120mm instead of 126mm.

I guess if I want to replace the wheels, it could just be with another 5 speed setup
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I just sold a set of 12 year old tubular road wheels with rims that were probably even older than that for $75 + $25 shipping on ebay. if they're useable, somebody probably wants them.
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I'd keep them for the Olmo if I were you. I got a 10 year old tubular set for cyclocross last year and paid $90 for them with a Campy 8 speed cassette. If they are in good shape then they are worth something to the right person. You may want to ask in the vintage forum and I am sure some one would be interested.
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well the real question is what kind of Hubs are they?
campagnolo Record (or Nuovo Record) ups the price a bit.
I say keep them, clean them up, remove the old tires,
scrape a bit of the old glue off, and then glue up a
set of Vittoria or Veloflex tires and enjoy the ride

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LOL for some reason I cannot edit my post but for the record the wheels I got were not 100 years old they were 10.
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Originally Posted by jfmckenna
LOL for some reason I cannot edit my post but for the record the wheels I got were not 100 years old they were 10.
I saw that and wondered. . . .
I edited the post, not sure why you couldn't, s'posed to be able to.

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Can I jump on this thread, I have a set of Mavic GP4, campy record hubs, belonged to Norm Alvis. they were his wheels from the '88 olympics. Still have his named etched on them. I never used them, bought them along with 2 of his U.S. team jerseys, and Dura-Ace group he was selling/giving away.

Since I am new to cycling after being off since 1989, is this stuff collectable? sellable? or keepers?
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Originally Posted by lotek
well the real question is what kind of Hubs are they?
campagnolo Record (or Nuovo Record) ups the price a bit.
I say keep them, clean them up, remove the old tires,
scrape a bit of the old glue off, and then glue up a
set of Vittoria or Veloflex tires and enjoy the ride

Marty
There is no writing on the hubs at all (or it is covered by dirt).
It has the same oval holes on the hub sides as the one below. It has 6 large oval holes on each side.
It doesnt have the same parabollic flowing connection with the axle though. Its a more obvious connection of 2 parts.

the I.R.O flip flop hub (reminiscent of N.R.):
https://www.sheldonbrown.com/harris/fixed-hubs.html
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Originally Posted by desmo13
Can I jump on this thread, I have a set of Mavic GP4, campy record hubs, belonged to Norm Alvis. they were his wheels from the '88 olympics. Still have his named etched on them. I never used them, bought them along with 2 of his U.S. team jerseys, and Dura-Ace group he was selling/giving away.

Since I am new to cycling after being off since 1989, is this stuff collectable? sellable? or keepers?
Well for reference the wheels I sold were Dura Ace hubs with Mavic GEL280 rims. I had a buy it now price of $75 and they sold the same day I listed them. Maybe I should have run them as an auction to see what the bidding would have gone to.
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The name of the hub manufacturer is almost certainly written on the hub in the direction the axle goes, between the spokes on the left and right sides. What they are, and what condition they are in will make a big difference in determining what they are worth.

btw - do you live near Pennsylvania?
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I dont think new tubulars come with new tubes already presown inside...

I noticed that there is a lot of thread left on the tires, and repairing them is less work than getting new ones.

instructions (https://www.sheldonbrown.com/brandt/tubular-repair.html) surprisingly recommend putting in a new tube by cutting it and snaking it through using the old one.... I'm assuming this is all done cuz sewing these things is a real pain?
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Originally Posted by godspiral
I dont think new tubulars come with new tubes already presown inside...
excuse me?
none of the tubulars I've bought (ever) required you to sew the tube into
the tire initially. Are you looking at "open tubulars"? they're just clinchers with
a hyped name.

and yes you can repair/replace tubes as sheldon suggests, however that is best saved
for winter when you can't ride and need at time waster.

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That one threw me as well. New tubulars come with the tubes inside them and are much less of a hassle than trying to replace old tubes.
1) Take out of package
2) Glue to rim
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Originally Posted by lotek
excuse me?
none of the tubulars I've bought (ever) required you to sew the tube into
the tire initially. Are you looking at "open tubulars"? they're just clinchers with
a hyped name.

and yes you can repair/replace tubes as sheldon suggests, however that is best saved
for winter when you can't ride and need at time waster.

marty
sorry I was just going by nashbar catalog... their tires made no mention of specs of tubes inside, so I assumed there were none.

recarding hub markings... I looked on the axles where other hubs are marked... nothing on these. Like I said, it could be under dirt.
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Originally Posted by godspiral
sorry I was just going by nashbar catalog... their tires made no mention of specs of tubes inside, so I assumed there were none.

recarding hub markings... I looked on the axles where other hubs are marked... nothing on these. Like I said, it could be under dirt.
Probably is. It might be worth the couple minutes it takes to wipe off the dirt and find out.
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cleaned them all up sparkly... notrace of any engraving having ever been on the axle. hardly any rust/dirt on gears any more.

on the lockring there is...

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Throw them up on ebay, make it a 10-day auction, describe the item in excruciating detail and emphasize that they are old and used but still working OK, and start the bidding at $1. Then you'll know.

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I'm in toronto, for those thinking of a century or 2 and unsure what direction to go

some additional info,
the front tire seems fine. Holds tight pressure. The tires are cotton, 22cm wide, surprisingly say only 85 max psi, and have loose strings dangling down from the side. (Safe to just snip those and forget?)

I'm guessing that since there are no markings on the hubs, that makes it a 100% certainty that they are not campy N.R., and so selling the wheels separate from the bike would not make much sense.

Since I'm only one rear tire away from making the bike rideable, and I could easily fall in love with the bike, and if I don't like it, a 20lb steel Olmo should be worth more complete than separated from its wheelset.
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