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Was this guy a 'tool' or not?

Old 07-10-06, 12:49 PM
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Was this guy a 'tool' or not?

After five days off the bike I was just out trying to knock the rust off everything, while dodging branches and tree limbs everywhere. (Storms blew through our area last night)

So I was just taking it easy about 10 miles into my 26, and a rider goes through the intersection I was waiting at ahead of me. We're both going in the same direction now after the intersection and he gets about a half block in, then does a U-turn in front of me.

He cicles around behind me now with obvious intent.

Although I felt like crap, I also felt compelled for some reason not to let this guy pull this obvious stunt he was up to. I went up into the 22's and held steady into a 10-12 wind. Normally, this would be fine, but coming back from five days away on vacation it was more like work.

After a few blocks I hear, "Left" and he's zooming past me.

He was about a quarter block ahead and the more I thought about that U-turn he pulled to mess with me the more it bothered me. I cranked it up and started closing the gap, with the plan being I was going to ask him if I could grab his wheel for a while and ride together.

Before I ever got there, he turned off.

So lets review:

--He innocently goes by me at an intersection where I am waiting.
--He rides out in front of me, then suddenly does a U-turn to follow me.
--He passes me
--He turns off

I guess the part I have trouble with is the obvious U-turn to horn in on me.
A tool?

Or am I once again just wound up too tight out there?
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Old 07-10-06, 12:51 PM
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What a newb.
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Tool. Not like a hammer kind of tool, but like the fabric you make curtains out of.
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Old 07-10-06, 12:56 PM
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Was he following you in close proximity (i.e. drafting)? If so, that's really hard to believe.

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Old 07-10-06, 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Cromulent
Tool. Not like a hammer kind of tool, but like the fabric you make curtains out of.
Are you following me?
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Old 07-10-06, 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by 56/12 and 22/28
Are you following me?
Not on purpose.
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Wow, a U-turn, and then gets behind you? That might be more than a tool.
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Originally Posted by Cromulent
Not on purpose.
Maybe it's a sub-conscious effort.
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Old 07-10-06, 01:22 PM
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Become one with yourself grasshopper.

Yes, he's a buttmunch, but you should've just ignored him. He'd have passed you soon enough and you could have gone back to what you were doing with a chuckle at his buttmunchieness.

(Now if he was dogging your wheel while your trying to just enjoy a nice spin - snots away!)
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Originally Posted by Hipcycler
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A tool?
Yup. I would say so. I wouldn't want anyone doing that to me. Maybe if he wasn't so rude about it it would be a different story.
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Originally Posted by botto
i believe the correct term for the guy would be - prick.

now, hipster, the next question is: why did you let the prick sit on your wheel? next time, i suggest a snot rocket to dissuade him

Why not turn the tables? If he did a U-turn, why not do one yourself and re-exchange positions.
The only downside is I'm pretty certain the next move would be a face-to-face confrontation.
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Old 07-10-06, 01:27 PM
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Cycling brings out insecurities in men and boys.

Frankly Hip, you did not discuss the real possibility that he was just checking out yer ass.
 
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Maybe he dropped something and had to circle back and get it.
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I agree. This guy was pretty toolish. Why didn't he just slow down and wait for you if he wanted to ride behind you for a bit.

Personally, I don't care if someone is behind me that much. I don't make many crazy moves so I am not worried about someone crashing into me.
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He's a tool.
Couple of theories:
He probably watched too much of the TdF and pretended he was Robbie McEwen and you were Boonen.
He wanted to check out your bike.
He wanted to check out your butt (especially if he pretended you were Boonen).
He was finishing up his 60 miler and needed help at the end with the headwind.
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Hip, have you ever thought about doing a U-turn so that you could "dust" another rider?
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He was checking out your bum.
or
He's the knave reincarnated.

Next time, slow down to 10 mph and do a Crazy Ivan every 100 yds.
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Originally Posted by mollusk
Hip, have you ever thought about doing a U-turn so that you could "dust" another rider?
I KNEW someone was going to go this route on me in this thread ...

The difference is that I have no history with the guy today....first time I'd ever seen him.

That whole turn around and drop him hard thing with The Knave last season was several years brewing and more than a last resort I had to do.
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Its funny but i had some one on my wheel today for the first time. I was avaraging 25 down wooster road at sick cadence. Had a guy pull up behind me and draft for a bit. I felt pretty good about it realy. I never reay considered my self a realy strong rider that people would want to draft.

Oh my max cadence was 163 and my avarage on wooster was 118 i was quite shocked and plesently so. Now woosterroad is one long flat to slight down hill in the direction i was going but still made me feel pretty good.

As for this paticular guy hip hard to say seems like a tool but like some one else said he could have been finishing up a long ride and just needed a wind break for a little ways.
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The knave has been posting about you, complete with pics and description at knaveforums.net and now you are a marked man!
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Maybe he liked your azz.
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Originally Posted by Paniolo
The knave has been posting about you, complete with pics and description at knaveforums.net and now you are a marked man!

Lol if i had the money i would so register that domain or better yet knaveblog.net
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Originally Posted by Hipcycler
Although I felt like crap, I also felt compelled for some reason not to let this guy pull this obvious stunt he was up to. I went up into the 22's and held steady into a 10-12 wind.
I hate you.

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Normally, this would be fine, but coming back from five days away on vacation it was more like work.
I really hate you. Seriously, the toolish part wasn't the passing, but the u-turn. Honestly, if I had seen you ahead of me, I probably would have tried to catch you, if I was on level ground. Your cruising speed is probably a borderline sprint for me, so it would have made a good challenge. If you had passed me, I probably would have tried to catch up--again, for the challenge of it. Turn around though, that's a bit overboard.
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What does the term "tool" mean?
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