Sincitycycler

Thinking about making foray into carbon tubulars, but it seem that most of them are race- day wheels only...kinda sucks when they can cost almost as much as a bike itself.

Any carbons wheels suitable for daily life? I can understand if there aren't any, given that they are as light as 1000g /wheel, but it would be nice!

chzman

not that i'd recommend training on them, but reynolds stratus wheels are pretty darn tough... or get a custom set of zipp pave 303 or 404s built up with some sweet hubs, they would be strong enough for training

BigFloppyLlama

Lightweights and Cosmic Carbones are the only two that come to mind as really being suitable for daily rides. Hanging out at weight weenies and reading about zipp rim failure leads me to believe they're not really the best for everyday wheels (perhaps their Pave rims though?). Mavic has a new wheel coming out soon so it may be another option.

Coyote2

Don't you have better ways of spending money than this?

waterrockets 

Training on carbons on purpose is ridiculous. Lance doesn't even do that, and he surely has an unlimited supply of wheels.

Here's Lance's retirement bike at this year's Giro. Note the 32h wheels (3x rear, and 2x front). Sensible wheelset for someone who doesn't have sag support. Also note the saddle bag:

Sincitycycler

Just asking bro.

I would think that somebody would be able to build a 1200g wheelset that is durable enough for a non-Clyde to train on everyday, given the prices that they are charging...

Thylacine

Who gives a rat's arse what Lance rides?

I don't know that doing heaps of training miles on some mega expenisve carbon wheels is that sensible, clincher or tubular. There's heaps of really light wheels that you could very easily train and race on. The Rolf Prima Elan Aeros spring to mind at 1295g a pair. You could also build up some Soul-Kozak/DT Supercomp/IRD Cadence Aero wheels for about 100g more that have a more aero profile rim section.

I guess it boils down to also how many kms a year you're doing, how crap the weather and roads are, and how much cash you have to burn too.

Personally, if I was a racing fool, I'd just train on some DA/DT Comp/Open Pro wheels, and get some 404's for racing and posing on. Then again, if I was doing 500 miles a week I wouldn't be training and racing on the same bike anyway.

Sincitycycler

timmyquest

Seriously, heck if you're training why not ride on the heaviest bike you can

Thylacine

Did I mention I can get cracking deals on Zipps?

Chucklehead

what constitutes a "carbon wheelset" to you?

my just-about-everyday/race-wheels are spinergy stealths. they aren't all that light, and they aren't tubular, but they do look pretty dope if that's all you're worried about. plus, they're bomb-proof, if that matters.

Sincitycycler

What model of wheels are these? They look sturdy!

mrkott3r

bontrager something, cant quite make it out from the pic

botto 

OMG and look! He has SOOOOOO many spacers!

mrkott3r

chain not on the big ring.

Damn Lance you are loosing some OCP points

botto 

and the crank isn't lined up with the seat tube. oh... the OCP faux pas are rampant!

waterrockets 

They're probably some surplus training wheels, like these used in a Disco training camp last year:

Jstyle

I know this is a newb question but what is the difference between clincher and tubular rims? Which is better? And what is a spacer?

Sorry but every one starts off new at some point

HAMMER MAN

Cane creek makes some excellent carbon wheels

ViperZ

Campagnolo Hyperon, you could ride those all the live long day. But like all carbon rims, Rain riding will be hard on them.

khuon

A clincher rim accepts clincher tyres. These are the more common of tyre variety for most riders. It consists of the tyre itself which has a bead that sits inside a hooked rim. An inner tube is used to hold the air.



In contrast, a tubular rim has no hook cross section for a bead to seat into. This is because the tyre itself is glued onto the rim. There is no inner tube. The tyre is both the casing and pneumatic container.



Note that tubulars should not be confused with MTB tubeless tyres. Think of a tubular as a very thick inner tube but it directly contacts the road. It is fully sealed whereas a tubeless tyre is like an automobile tyre. it relies on the the rim to form the other part of the pneumatic containment. Tubeless tyre rims and clinchers share much in common in terms of cross-section design. However clinchers rims are not necessarily airtight.



Performance-wise, tubulars are better. They roll nicer, accelerate better and are lighter. They can also be inflated to higher pressures because in most cases the pressure limitations of a clincher tyre is its ability to maintain a rim/bead contact and this would not be a factour with tubulars. However, they can be impractical for recreational and everyday riding because a puncture means a little bit more of an involved repair process and you can't just simply throw a new tube in to get you quickly back on the road as you would a clincher. Clinchers have come a long way and unless you're racing, is usually the recommended choice. Now bear in mind that there are also hybrid designs of tyre such as the Tufo Tubular-clincher. These tyres are essentially a tubular tyre that have a mounting bead so they can be used on clincher rims.



Tufo in fact has a good explanation on their website of the applicability of tubular vs. clinchers.


In general, a spacer is simply a piece of material that adds more space between to specified points for the purpose of aligning things or increasing distances. On a bicycle, spacers are used in a variety of places such as between the cogs in the rear sprockets or in the pedal spindle to adjust how far out from the bike frame someone's foot can be. In the above reference to spacers, the term is used to identify the rings between bottom of the handlebar stem and the headset. These are usually called headset spacers and they are used to position the stem and thus handlebars at a proper height.

waterrockets 

Nice response. That took some time to assemble, I'm sure

Sincitycycler

Those are purdy. How many money kostet?

ViperZ

~ $2088 Bone, $3299.00 for the Ultras

Link Here

H1449-6

I assume that you're just trolling for attention.

"Training" wheels by definition are relatively inexpensive and therefore disposable.