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Just a few history questions...
1. When did carbon forks become the norm on road bikes?
2. When did STI become the norm?
3. When did threadless become the norm?
1. When did carbon forks become the norm on road bikes?
2. When did STI become the norm?
3. When did threadless become the norm?
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I could have an educated guess about the carbon and the threadless, but i won't.
As far as STI goes, this is from the Dura-Ace history page
https://dura-ace.shimano.com/publish/...tory/7400.html
1989
Andy Hampsten and three TVM riders (including Phil Anderson) test prototype versions of the Dual Control Lever, HG sprockets, and dual-pivot brake.
1990
After being tested during the 1989 season, the new STI Dual Control Lever is introduced as a standard component of the Dura-Ace group. Recognized as setting a new standard in shifting convenience, it becomes the signature component of Dura-
Ace.
As far as STI goes, this is from the Dura-Ace history page
https://dura-ace.shimano.com/publish/...tory/7400.html
1989
Andy Hampsten and three TVM riders (including Phil Anderson) test prototype versions of the Dual Control Lever, HG sprockets, and dual-pivot brake.
1990
After being tested during the 1989 season, the new STI Dual Control Lever is introduced as a standard component of the Dura-Ace group. Recognized as setting a new standard in shifting convenience, it becomes the signature component of Dura-
Ace.
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Originally Posted by ivan_yulaev
Just a few history questions...
1. When did carbon forks become the norm on road bikes?
2. When did STI become the norm?
3. When did threadless become the norm?
1. When did carbon forks become the norm on road bikes?
2. When did STI become the norm?
3. When did threadless become the norm?
*hugs his Raleigh, anyway*
Ah, well... I'll just stay back here in the stone age and put a few thousand more miles on my bike.
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Originally Posted by ivan_yulaev
*bump*
Please? Someone's gotta know...
Please? Someone's gotta know...
there's search engines like google out there. want to know? search!
now, to answer part of your question. iirc sti came out in ultegra in '93, 105 came a year or two later - so by then, seeing as it was available in the cheap groups, it was 'the norm'.
CF forks? guestimate +/-2000
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ok, now I'm gunna chime in with some "educated" guessing
I say threadless were standard by 2000, and probably 50/50 in 1999.
All the bikes in these 2000 Milan-San Remo pics have a-head: https://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...lr%3D%26sa%3DG
.......and in this 1999 pic, Armstrong has a quill stem, but Boby Julich has threadless:
https://www.bobbyjulich.com/julich/ph...e_tdf99_02.jpg
I'm also guessing that Shimano-sponsored teams may have been under pressure to continue using Shimano threaded headsets. I've seen several other 1999 pics of quill stems on pro bikes
Concerning the forks, it's harder to tell from photos, because many of the early carbons were painted, and had narrower blades than those we see today. I'd say carbon forks were a couple of years before threadless. There are plenty of old carbon forks around with threaded, steel steerers.
I say threadless were standard by 2000, and probably 50/50 in 1999.
All the bikes in these 2000 Milan-San Remo pics have a-head: https://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...lr%3D%26sa%3DG
.......and in this 1999 pic, Armstrong has a quill stem, but Boby Julich has threadless:
https://www.bobbyjulich.com/julich/ph...e_tdf99_02.jpg
I'm also guessing that Shimano-sponsored teams may have been under pressure to continue using Shimano threaded headsets. I've seen several other 1999 pics of quill stems on pro bikes
Concerning the forks, it's harder to tell from photos, because many of the early carbons were painted, and had narrower blades than those we see today. I'd say carbon forks were a couple of years before threadless. There are plenty of old carbon forks around with threaded, steel steerers.
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was recently wondering the same thing about clipless pedals and quick release skewers, but won't ask here so as not to get yelled at for being lazy.....
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Originally Posted by Ostuni
was recently wondering the same thing about clipless pedals and quick release skewers, but won't ask here so as not to get yelled at for being lazy.....
if it means anything, when i did my first race back in the summer of 1990 i was the only one with toe-clips/straps. got dropped at the first 100 meters because i was too busy strapping up. that's what i got for being a Sean Kelly fanatic
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Originally Posted by Ostuni
was recently wondering the same thing about clipless pedals and quick release skewers, but won't ask here so as not to get yelled at for being lazy.....
https://www.campyonly.com/history.html
https://www.lookcycle.com/v3/entreprise_accueil_en.htm
"In 1984 , Look marketed the first automatic pedal with which Bernard Hinault was to win the 1985 Tour de France."
Although they were around in 1984, it took a bit longer for clipless to become the norm, compared to other products, because it was a fundamental change to the way the riders were contected to the bike. It took some guys a long time to get used to it. The shoes also had to be redesigned. LeMond wore toe-straps over his Time clipless in many 1989 races, including the World Championships, and his famous Tour time-trial which won him the race by 8 seconds.
1989 Worlds:
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