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Which Camelbak: 70 or 100 oz?

Old 07-19-06, 11:11 AM
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Which Camelbak: 70 or 100 oz?

Given the extreme hot weather this summer I'd like to get a Camelbak. I'm debating between the 70oz Lobo and the 100oz Blowfish. There are places to refill where I ride but I'd prefer not to if I can avoid it. I don't need that much storage so it's really a matter of water capacity. I'm a rec rider and could easily go through 100 oz plus my two water bottles on a hot day. However, I'm concerned about the extra weight and bulk of the 100 oz camelbaks. Do any of you ride with a 100 oz pack? Do you think it's signficantly heavier and bulkier than the 70 oz one?
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Old 07-19-06, 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by CrimsonEclipse
I have the old school CamelBak's, the plain 70oz (with no pockets) and the MULE 100oz
with pockets and pockets and more pockets.

Since this a roadie section, I'd suggest the simpler pak. Also, look for the insulation
sleeve (for the tube) so you don't always get the hot water for the first sip.

If there is a simple 100oz pak without pockets, get that one. It conviently converts
onto a 70oz by not filling it up completely.

CE
I'd go with the 100 ounce bladder and the most bare-bones model for road riding . I have a 70 + a 100 ounce model . When I use the 70 oz Classic I have to stop for food and water more often. Forget the insulated tube , it doesn't help much, if at all.
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16 ounces is 1 pound, so the difference between 70 and 100 ounces in around 2 pounds if both are full. Of course, you don't need to fill it up. I use a 100 ounce pack when mountain biking and it isn't that bulky. A road bike might feel different if you have an aero riding position.

The old rule of thumb is to drink 16 ounces per hour on cool days and 32 ounces per hour on really hot days. You can do the math on how much water you need to bring on your rides if you don't want to refill. Personally, I like travelling light and refilling every couple of hours where possible.
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I use 2 bottles plus 70oz and have water left over on 65 mile rides around MD / DC area, which takes me about 4 hours. If I was riding further than that maybe I'd go with larger model.

Pockets are nice, especially since the camelback will make your side pockets a little harder to get into. With a 4+ hour ride, you'll want to bring food.
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Originally Posted by johnny99

The old rule of thumb is to drink 16 ounces per hour on cool days and 32 ounces per hour on really hot days.
Maybe I sweat more than you , because if i drank that little while riding , my pee would be almost orange . A bag of Clif Shot Bloks Gummies + 70 ounces of water an hour is perfect for me.
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Originally Posted by BoSoxYacht
Maybe I sweat more than you , because if i drank that little while riding , my pee would be almost orange . A bag of Clif Shot Bloks Gummies + 70 ounces of water an hour is perfect for me.
70 ounces is more than half a gallon. You must be three times as big as me to be able to absorb all that every hour.
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I should be more accurate, after an hour I'm looking for someplace to get more water . I know I sweat a lot when it's over 110, so I drink tons of water and some Gatorade when I stop to fill-up .
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I'm concerned about the extra weight and bulk of the 100 oz camelbaks. Do any of you ride with a 100 oz pack? Do you think it's signficantly heavier and bulkier than the 70 oz one?
What a great question. What I'd like to know, are you a strong enough rider to go through 70oz of fluids and not want to stop some where for a rest or food? There are few cyclists around that can use a 100oz Camelback, and fewer cyclists, that need one...........
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100oz gives you more room for ice to keep the water cold. On a hot day there is nothing better than having nice ice cold water for 2 hours of riding.
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I have both the 70 oz Rogue and the 100 oz Blowfish. I usually only use the 70 on the road bike and then only if there is nowhere to fill bottles. I can feel the difference, even if I don't fill the 100 all the way, it just feels bigger and more cumbersome. I use the 100 if I want to carry a lot of stuff like warm clothes, and then, I may only put a little water in there.
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Originally Posted by scot
100oz gives you more room for ice to keep the water cold. On a hot day there is nothing better than having nice ice cold water for 2 hours of riding.
I agree with you 100% . I don't notice my 100 ounce (1500+ci cargo capacity) Camelbak being too heavy when I'm out on my mountainbike, but it is a bit much for the road. My 70 ounce Camelbak Classic is nice for the road(it weighs 5 pounds when filled), but I wish it had a 100 ounce bladder.
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Thanks for all the input! Sounds like 70 oz is the way to go as the 100 oz may be too bulky. I'll just plan to coordinate refilling with rest stops. Thanks again....I appreciate it!
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It's a trick question. The answer is neither. Camelbacks suck on road rides.
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Originally Posted by Towlie
It's a trick question. The answer is neither. Camelbacks suck on road rides.
Please remove your lips from the bong before you speak. Follow me on a training ride with your tiny bottles of hot water. You'd most likely end up with a needle in your arm, in the local ER. Water bottles suck on any bike . I'd much rather carry 5-8 pounds of water on my back than on my bike. I'm surprised the UCI hasn't outlawed "Camelbaks" . They seem to ban anything that gives you an advantage over riders using conventional products.
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Originally Posted by BoSoxYacht
Water bottles suck on any bike . I'd much rather carry 5-8 pounds of water on my back than on my bike.
Not to mention the safety factor. Hitting a pothole while you've got only one hand on the bars and you are fiddling with your water bottle is not fun. If driving with a cell phone is unsafe then I have to believe that water bottles are at least as distracting.
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I just bought the Camelbak Slipstream and I love it. It only holds fifty ounces of water but my rides don't go over 2.5 hours so I am okay. I also carry Gatorade in an insulated bottle. The Slipstream has plenty of storage but is small and compact. As far as the water getting hot in the drink tube, when I get finished taking a drink, I blow back through the tube which pushes the water back into the pack.
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i use the mule. sure its a bit large for a roadie, but it keeps everything i need in it. pump, cell, tube, water, etc. i only use it on long rides.
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I was thinking about the 50oz Camelbak ... that plus my two 24 oz bottles gives me good range.
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Floyd Landis used 71 water bottles on stage 17 . I know many were poured over his head, but I'm sure he was consuming more than 32 ounces an hour. They said the temp was 100 + . Would he have a solid lead if he hadn't blown up in the 16th stage? Probably. His coach said he wasn't drinking enough during the stage. The difference in results is proof enough for me .
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Originally Posted by BoSoxYacht
Floyd Landis used 71 water bottles on stage 17 . I know many were poured over his head, but I'm sure he was consuming more than 32 ounces an hour. They said the temp was 100 + . Would he have a solid lead if he hadn't blown up in the 16th stage? Probably. His coach said he wasn't drinking enough during the stage. The difference in results is proof enough for me .
Well, as far as I am concerned comparing Floyd Landis to me would be like comparing a Ferrari to a school bus. There is no way I am putting out the energy that he does and so my needs are different. Fifty ounces of water plus my bottles of Gatorade are plenty for me.
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I have a Blowfish. It's great to have the storage space for stuff on long rides. Although it's nice to have ice cold water, it's harder for your body to absorb it. I usually just fill up with the water that comes out of the fridge.
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Suggestion...Instead of the Blowfish, consider the MULE. It holds the 100 oz. and has a much smaller "footprint" on your back so its cooler in hot weather. It holds less than the Blowfish but will haold alot. The Blowfish will encourage you to carry more than you need and that's when the weight affects you. One other suggestion is to look for a Camelbak DayTrekker on the internet. They are discontinued but seem to be around. It is a waist pack that holds 45 or 50 oz and once you're on the bike it is essentially weightless (and sweatless). It also has ample storage to carry needed stuff. I started with a MULE, bought a DayTrekker and have even bought two 70 oz Camelbak Unibottles that slip into my backpack.

In response to a writer above...I don't put out the watts that Floyd Landis does but I bet I sweat more. Hydrate or Die sounds like a nifty slogan but it's fact. I'd rather dump water when I get home rather than need to look for water on the road.
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Go with the 100 oz. I use the Mule 100 oz. and never drink 'till it's empty, but do fill it up when I use it for xc skiing in the winter. It's great. You can use the Mule for many different activities.
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