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Why do no racers use Campy?

Old 07-20-06, 06:58 AM
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Why do no racers use Campy?

Okay- I went to a low-stakes, midweek crit my club. Nothing fancy, 40 laps of about 1k, based on points. When I took the bike out of my car, some guy comes up to me, looks at my brifters, & says, "you using downshifters?" I responded politely, "no, it's Campy." that's just the beginning.

While trying to hang on the back of the pack, I look around and EVERYONE is using DA, Ultegra, or 105. NO Campy at all. When I tried to get to the front, everyone stares at my bike, & it almost makes me feel uncomfortable.

I feel like an outcast . Anyone else race where no one uses Campy?

P.S. I live in Toronto.
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must have been a ghetto crit, because i see plenty of campy at my races.

personally i stopped using campy a long time ago. it was cheaper to replace broken RD and the like with shimano
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I don't know--Is Campy more expensive in Canada or something?

I think that the majority of racers around here ride Shimano too, but it's not like it's strange to see Campy components. I think they're just more expensive, so when you're racing and breaking stuff an Ultegra or 105 rear derailleur, for instance, is a hell of a lot cheaper than a Chorus or Centaur...

Just a guess.

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Originally Posted by botto
must have been a ghetto crit, because i see plenty of campy at my races.
A crizznit?

personally i stopped using campy a long time ago. it was cheaper to replace broken RD and the like with shimano
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Originally Posted by DrPete
Great minds think alike--and so do we.
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I think it starts at the bike shops where we buy our bikes. I was recently at my areas largest and most extensively stocked shops, of all the bikes there, and there are tons of bikes as they rep Specialized, Cannondale, Felt, Colnago, Ridley, Scott, Bianchi, De Rosa, Serrotta and a couple of others. There was only ONE bike that was equipped with Campy, and it was a lower series of Bianchi with Centaur.
You gotta get the stuff out in the market, or there will be no market for the stuff. A chicken before the egg thing me thinks.
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True. Here in Toronto, there's maybe FIVE bike shops that I know of that have Campy. The problem is, all the salespeople direct their customers to Shimano, because of their own ignorance with Campy.

vicious cycle, anyone?
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Campy is more expensive for componentry that is comparable in the minds of most people... They associate Record with Dura-ace, which is appropriate, and then they think Chorus is virtually identical to Ultegra, which I find to not be very true. I actually think chorus fills a gap between Ultegra and Record, especially on the pricepoint, which make Ultegra look like a better deal from most people's perspectives. I mean each version has their respective better aspects for different individuals, but Shimano is pushed by most LBS's, or that's what I have found. They are familiar with the components, and can stock just what they expect to get, as opposed to the two brands of replacements parts, much like Shimano is pushed on the MTB's as well over SRAM stuff, though I found SRAM to be more prevalent that Campy.

Personally, I have small hands, so I went with Campy since their hoods are smaller and more comfortable for my hand, but I had to drive to a not so local LBS to get what I wanted. This bike shop had carried Campy for many years though, so they were used to their components and the changes in them. Other than myself, not many people locally ride campy, predominantly because of its availability at the LBS's. After a couple people tested out my bike, they found the campy stuff to be just as good, and one guy even ended up converting from Ultegra to Centuar about a month later.

So I really think it boils down to the fact that popular bikes, like the Treks, Specialized, and Cannondales predominently equip their bikes with Shimano components, and since that is what is most readily available, that's wwhat people ride.

Sorry if that was kinda jumbled and confusing... I'm still fried from my morning run and not completely with it yet... damn heat.
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But surely with all that carbon bling-bling & new "QS" & hirth coupling BB, Campy must gain popularity in '07?!
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those who know
know its http://www.campyonly.com
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Originally Posted by botto
must have been a ghetto crit, because i see plenty of campy at my races.

personally i stopped using campy a long time ago. it was cheaper to replace broken RD and the like with shimano
I actually just upgraded both of my race bikes to Campy...I love it!!! And if you look in the right place it ends up being as much or cheaper than Shimano. The only Shimano bikes I have left are my Cyclocross bikes which will take a beating so I'll just keep that with Shimano for now.
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Originally Posted by DRLski
And if you look in the right place it ends up being as much or cheaper than Shimano.

SHOW ME.
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I race on campy. This is my first year though. I have yet to break a rd. How are you people breaking rds?
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Umm... www.probikekit.com?

Veloce is cheaper than 105 by like $150.
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I race on campy. This is my first year though. I have yet to break a rd. How are you people breaking rds?
I broke my Xenon RD via chain getting stuck & then ripping it off the dropout.
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http://www.11speed.com/
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I bet had you won that Crit you would see more people with Campy the next week. Keep losing, and it will stay all Shimano.
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Originally Posted by pelotonracer
True. Here in Toronto, there's maybe FIVE bike shops that I know of that have Campy. The problem is, all the salespeople direct their customers to Shimano, because of their own ignorance with Campy.

vicious cycle, anyone?
When I open my mobile bike shop (mbs), can I use "Vicious Cycle" as the name?
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I had a similar problem where I broke a chain and got it stuck in the RD, trashing the RD, cassette, chain, and my derailleur hanger. RD, chain, and cassette ALL would have been more expensive if they had been Campy Chorus instead of Ultegra 10-speed.

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No doubt there are a lot more pepole with shimano on their bikes... as pointed out earlier almost all of the bikes sold in every shop I've been to are shimano equiped, I don't really understand why either. I do see people with campy, but they're the minority for sure.
All the carbon fiber on the levers and rear derailleur (on the chorus/record) kind of scares me away... those always seem to take hit in a crash.
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Must have been an interesting crit if everyone had time to look around at equipment and give odd looks. What did they say about your headset? Hubs?
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Hehe... someone made a smarta$$ comment about my triple crankset at the start line once, right before I smoked him... That's always fun.

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Originally Posted by pelotonracer
Okay- I went to a low-stakes, midweek crit my club. Nothing fancy, 40 laps of about 1k, based on points. When I took the bike out of my car, some guy comes up to me, looks at my brifters, & says, "you using downshifters?" I responded politely, "no, it's Campy." that's just the beginning.

While trying to hang on the back of the pack, I look around and EVERYONE is using DA, Ultegra, or 105. NO Campy at all. When I tried to get to the front, everyone stares at my bike, & it almost makes me feel uncomfortable.

I feel like an outcast . Anyone else race where no one uses Campy?

P.S. I live in Toronto.
Hey, you're soon gonna have a Shimano bike for free anyway. Just use that at the races
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Just use that at the races
Nah- I'll have to take 15 minutes explaining where I got it if they ask. . Worse, maybe someone from BF will be there!
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A little thing called ebay Use it, know it, love it Heck, that's how I've built almost every bike I own now and for half the cost of retail.
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