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An amazing read on doping and what it really does

Old 07-20-06, 01:25 PM
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An amazing read on doping and what it really does

Since this is from 3 years ago, many of you may already have read it, but with the Tour and everything going on there I think this is relevant. To this day it's the most honest and eye-opening examination of doping, it's effects both "positive" and negative.

(In short: the guy takes the drugs himself and then reports on all their effects on him physically and mentally. Oh, and he's a cyclist)

http://outside.away.com/outside/body...ug_test_1.html
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Old 07-20-06, 06:22 PM
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Crazy crazy stuff

It's amazing what people will do to themselves to get an edge in this game...
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Old 07-20-06, 07:14 PM
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Oh god, drugs.. I need drugs...
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Old 07-20-06, 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by NuckingFuts
Crazy crazy stuff

It's amazing what people will do to themselves to get an edge in this game...
It's not a game for these guys. It's their livelihood. If they don't perform, they lose their jobs.
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Old 07-20-06, 07:19 PM
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I knew this guy back in the day. He bounced at a night club I DJ'd at. Looked like a viking....HUGE....arms the size of cannons...always said they'd need a HUGE box to bury him in. He got aids from a dirty needle and died weighing 80 some pounds.

sad
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That's the really scary part. The pros have the cash to at least pay a doctor to do it "right." At the amateur level, I'm sure there's a lot of shady dealing going on with the meds, doses, and things like needles. You really can kill yourself if you don't know what you're doing, or at least mess yourself up permanently.

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Originally Posted by Biggziff
I knew this guy back in the day. He bounced at a night club I DJ'd at. Looked like a viking....HUGE....arms the size of cannons...always said they'd need a HUGE box to bury him in. He got aids from a dirty needle and died weighing 80 some pounds.

sad
I know a personal trainer like that. He looks like a race horse but he's got to be taking something...nobody looks like that naturally.
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this article gets posted from time to time, but its good info, thats for sure.
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I liked the article, but was a little disappointed in lack for a benchmark. If I did what he did I would have tested power output with a PowerTap all along to gauge the results. I would have picked a climb to do a before and after also. I did not see much of that from the article.

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Old 07-20-06, 10:39 PM
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Interesting article. Now that I'm in my mid-30's this quote by "Dr. Jones" describes my current status very well:

"Between 20 and 30 years of age," Dr. Jones explained in a long, impressive presentation, complete with fancy computer graphics, "our growth hormone is at its absolute peak. And then all of a sudden, it drops."

He ticked off the negative effects of low HGH levels: "Total cholesterol goes up, good cholesterol goes down, bad cholesterol goes up. Reduced body tone, decreased muscle strength, reduced lean body mass, increased total body fat, reduced exercise performance, decreased mental function."

How does one find out ones hemocrit levels? Just have a standard blood test?
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From a very practical standpoint, it would make a lot of sense for men to have some sort of hormone replacement therapy-- not unlike women. I am not talking about doping-- but unfortunately there is so much hysteria surrounding steroids that it is unlikely we will see it happen anytime soon (see Barry Bonds' recent story).
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Great read
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The author of the article in the link also writes on politics
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Originally Posted by mayukawa

How does one find out ones hemocrit levels? Just have a standard blood test?
Yes, and it can be done as a stand-alone test. When you give blood I think they do a test also.
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I read that article last time it was posted up on here....

From the Doctors' opinions on here, if under the close supervision of a qualifed medical professional, is HGH actually bad for you?
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Interesting article, thanks for the link!
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I thought that was a great read. Only 6 more years until my HGH levels drop.....
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