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Old 07-28-06, 08:49 PM
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I am looking for experiences with the Trek Pilot 5 or 5.2 I test rode a Pilot and a 5200. The Pilot felt natural and comfortable. The 5200 felt like I was stretched out on a medieval rack. I currently ride a Trek 1200 about 100 miles a week.
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I would thnk that the 5200 and the 1200 would be similar geometries, with the 5200 maybe being slightly more agressive, if any difference. How do you like riding the 1200 you currently own?
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Old 07-28-06, 10:43 PM
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Bikes like the 5200 are designed for riders who like to and can ride fast. Not everyone is in that category. If you would prefer to sit back and enjoy the view, then you know which bike to get.
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I have a 63c Pilot. It's geo is not a lot diffferent than other classic racing bikes such as Bianchi and Lemond but with the sloping top tube, you can get a larger range of riding positions by, for example, choosing a larger frame. It can be set up for any kind of riding position preference.

I have the tops of the bars about equal to the top of the seat with a usable drop position. One differnce is that the Pilot, at least in the larger frame size, has a more layed back seat tube angle and that helps in getting the knees back over the pedal spindles for those with longer upper legs--much like Lemond bikes and traditional touring bikes.

Also like Lemond bikes, the Pilot's head tube angle still is as steep as any performance road bike. And, Pilot's wheelbase (and chain stay) length is more like a performance road bike than an old-style touring bike.

Mine came with 25c tires but there was easily enough space for a 28c on the back, which can be tough for bikes that are made for 23c tires, so, only in that regard, is the Pilot not like usual "race" bike--that and the fact that, size for size, the Pilot's effective top tube length is perhaps about a single centimeter shorter than some other bikes, e.g., for the Pilot, my stem length is 10-20 mm longer than for a Bianchi or Lemond.


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I love my Pilot 5.0; it's comfortable enough to ride hundreds of miles per week. For me, a comfortable bike allows me to spend more time in the saddle and allows me to be a better rider. So the decrease in speed one might associate with comfort geometry is counteracted by my improved riding ability that comes from the more miles I can train without pain. I heard of one Pilot rider simply flipping the stem in order to get his bike race ready.
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Originally Posted by jprotter@tm.net
I am looking for experiences with the Trek Pilot 5 or 5.2 I test rode a Pilot and a 5200. The Pilot felt natural and comfortable. The 5200 felt like I was stretched out on a medieval rack. I currently ride a Trek 1200 about 100 miles a week.
I went with a Pilot to save some wear and tear on my aging body. I ride over 100 miles a week very comfortably and think it was a good call. I don't race, though.
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Originally Posted by jprotter@tm.net
I am looking for experiences with the Trek Pilot 5 or 5.2 I test rode a Pilot and a 5200. The Pilot felt natural and comfortable. The 5200 felt like I was stretched out on a medieval rack. I currently ride a Trek 1200 about 100 miles a week.
That's pretty funny. I switched from a 1200 to a Pilot 5.0. I liked the 1200, but after about 50 miles I really couldn't wait to get off it. It beat me up pretty good. I liked the idea of the Pilot so I looked at the 2.1, but I needed a larger one that the 1200. I rode a 54 in the 1200 and needed a 56 in the Pilot. The Trek store didn't have a 2.1 in the 56 but did have the 56 in the 5.0. I rode it and fell in love with it. So far I've put about 400 miles or so on it and have nothing but good things to say about it. Very comfortable and the carbon really absorbs the road. I put 78 miles on it today. No problem at all. I didn't like the mix of components though. The shifters really should be the Ultegra like the derailers.. Maybe for Christmas... I would really recommend it to you.
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Old 07-30-06, 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by edombey
I went with a Pilot to save some wear and tear on my aging body. I ride over 100 miles a week very comfortably and think it was a good call. I don't race, though.
Yeah, that's the way I look at it. I will never race a bike. I do love to ride long distances. I do like to feel good after my long rides. This bike is perfect for that.
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Originally Posted by MiRider
I love my Pilot 5.0; it's comfortable enough to ride hundreds of miles per week. For me, a comfortable bike allows me to spend more time in the saddle and allows me to be a better rider. So the decrease in speed one might associate with comfort geometry is counteracted by my improved riding ability that comes from the more miles I can train without pain. I heard of one Pilot rider simply flipping the stem in order to get his bike race ready.
I've seen this first hand. Some of the people that I ride with have some really fast bikes but I usually catch up to them after about 40 miles and then I pass by them and don't see them again till the end of the ride. They usually are *****ing about one thing or another that hurts them. The Pilot is a fast bike though, it just doesn't have the aerodynamics as the faster bikes. You could flip the stem I guess.
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I got a Pilot 5.0 about six weeks ago and have put about 350 miles on it, including a 78 mile ride. It really is a smooth ride, especially compared to my aluminum hybrid. Flipping the stem is one thing I discussed with the owner of the shop before I bought it. Wouldn't be a problem at all, and would put the bars at about the same height as the 1200.
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The Pilot 5.0's bars are about 40mm higher in the drops than the 5200's (the LBS owner and I put same frame sizes side by side - I was curious about the actual differences). I test rode both models quite a bit (ended up getting a Bianchi, though). Both were comfortable, the Pilot a bit more so. FWIW, the LBS owner just got a Project One Pilot. Had I gone with a Trek, it would have been the Pilot.

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