bar tape / is there a better kind?
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bar tape / is there a better kind?
I seem to destroy bar tape in no time at all. No matter what i do after a couple hundred miles it moves. it moves to the point where you can see 1/2 inch strips of the actual handle bar. I have only tried plain old cork tape. Is there something else i should try?
I have developed tennis elbow, and it is taking FOREVER to heal. My dr thought that gel bar tape might help to protect my elbow... that and a tennis elbow strap.
keeping all this in mind, is there a kind or brand of bar tape that you recomend i try out???
thanks,
Mike
I have developed tennis elbow, and it is taking FOREVER to heal. My dr thought that gel bar tape might help to protect my elbow... that and a tennis elbow strap.
keeping all this in mind, is there a kind or brand of bar tape that you recomend i try out???
thanks,
Mike
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My wife had the specialized bar tape with gel stuff and it unraveled after two weeks of riding.
Right now she is using the Bontrager stuff which seems nice and I'll be putting some of the above mentioned Fizik tape on my bike when I decide which new bars to get.
Right now she is using the Bontrager stuff which seems nice and I'll be putting some of the above mentioned Fizik tape on my bike when I decide which new bars to get.
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I would bet the unravelling is more about the quality of your wraps than the material. (I personally like the Nashbar tape a lot and several/many other BF posters have said same.)
I think the gel stuff is more about the ulnar nerve and dead hand issue than the tennis elbow. That is probably best addressed through bike setup and ride habits. The setup- make sure your handlebars are not too far away (resulting in you reaching for them and, therefore, locking your elbows.) Ride habits- again, riding with elbows bent will do a lot.
I think the gel stuff is more about the ulnar nerve and dead hand issue than the tennis elbow. That is probably best addressed through bike setup and ride habits. The setup- make sure your handlebars are not too far away (resulting in you reaching for them and, therefore, locking your elbows.) Ride habits- again, riding with elbows bent will do a lot.
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Deda has lasted me several thousand miles. I was even able to re-use it on a different set of handlebars. If your tape is coming unwrapped though, you might not be wrapping tight enough.
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Ok,
here is what I do. Buy 3 Grip Shapes. Slide the first under the hoods on the outside. Tape the others on the outside bend so that they overlap a lot. Tape them
on the outside so they create a platform for your hand. Tape them a bit high because the first time you put weight on them they will settle.
https://www.gripstore.com/detail.asp?product_id=SL-GS
Then lay some gel bar tape the length of the bars so that one edge follows the
high point as much as possible, the other rests on the grip shapes. Then wrap the bars (or have a bike shop do it) with more gel tape. I use Cinelli.
I am dealing with tennis elbow as well, are you icing down when it gets sore?
A handlebar that has some give to it, like the Ritchey BioMax would help, as would a larger tire. If the biggest you can fit is a 25c I suggest the Vredstein Fortezza 25c, at 100 psi. Only pump the tire up enough so that it keeps it's shape when you sit on it. If it isn't perfectly round when riding that is ok. It's tall
enough that it won't pinch at 100 psi unless you weigh a ton.
here is what I do. Buy 3 Grip Shapes. Slide the first under the hoods on the outside. Tape the others on the outside bend so that they overlap a lot. Tape them
on the outside so they create a platform for your hand. Tape them a bit high because the first time you put weight on them they will settle.
https://www.gripstore.com/detail.asp?product_id=SL-GS
Then lay some gel bar tape the length of the bars so that one edge follows the
high point as much as possible, the other rests on the grip shapes. Then wrap the bars (or have a bike shop do it) with more gel tape. I use Cinelli.
I am dealing with tennis elbow as well, are you icing down when it gets sore?
A handlebar that has some give to it, like the Ritchey BioMax would help, as would a larger tire. If the biggest you can fit is a 25c I suggest the Vredstein Fortezza 25c, at 100 psi. Only pump the tire up enough so that it keeps it's shape when you sit on it. If it isn't perfectly round when riding that is ok. It's tall
enough that it won't pinch at 100 psi unless you weigh a ton.
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has anyone tried the Fizik Microtex
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Originally Posted by Serpico
has anyone tried the Fizik Microtex (without the gel)?
the Brooks tape I'm using right now is nice, but it's a bit too thick for me
the Brooks tape I'm using right now is nice, but it's a bit too thick for me
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Well I really like the Salsa Goma tape...but I htink this is one of those everyone has their own preference type of things.
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I'm using a Bianchi brand bar tape (black not celeste) at the moment and its deffinitely more durable than cork tape. It offers just a little less padding than cork tape so I don't know how that will go with elbow problems.
It does sound like your not wrapping the tape up tight enough if its comming loose and you can see the handlebars. I've had cork tape suffer from abrasions more than other tapes but not come loose. You realy need to pull it tight as your wrapping it around the bars.
Regards, Anthony
It does sound like your not wrapping the tape up tight enough if its comming loose and you can see the handlebars. I've had cork tape suffer from abrasions more than other tapes but not come loose. You realy need to pull it tight as your wrapping it around the bars.
Regards, Anthony
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I recently wrapped my bars with cinelli gel cork ribbon and it seems to be staying in place very well I was a little concerned because it doesn't have the same adhesive back as the regular cinelli cork ribbon. it just has a tacky back but this actually made it easier to install could redo it if it wasn't just right. the gel works well I too have slight tendonitis of my right elbow and it really takes the edge off gripping the handlebars for several hours.
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Mike, I tend to push the tape, too. I have had better results by using a layer of double-sided tape under the bar tape. You just need a little in the area that moves,(right near the bend,for me). To make it softer, try 2 layers of bar tape. I also like Moda Chunky and Blue Star thick tape, or both of them together.
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I used to always have that problem. Wrap the tape tight; but, more importantly wrap inwards, say toward the saddle. If you wrap out your hands will force it to move and split.
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Originally Posted by mcavana
I seem to destroy bar tape in no time at all. No matter what i do after a couple hundred miles it moves. it moves to the point where you can see 1/2 inch strips of the actual handle bar. I have only tried plain old cork tape. Is there something else i should try?
I have developed tennis elbow, and it is taking FOREVER to heal. My dr thought that gel bar tape might help to protect my elbow... that and a tennis elbow strap.
keeping all this in mind, is there a kind or brand of bar tape that you recomend i try out???
thanks,
Mike
I have developed tennis elbow, and it is taking FOREVER to heal. My dr thought that gel bar tape might help to protect my elbow... that and a tennis elbow strap.
keeping all this in mind, is there a kind or brand of bar tape that you recomend i try out???
thanks,
Mike
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Originally Posted by Serpico
has anyone tried the Fizik Microtex (without the gel)?
the Brooks tape I'm using right now is nice, but it's a bit too thick for me
the Brooks tape I'm using right now is nice, but it's a bit too thick for me
If you want thin tape, Fizik is the way to go. Very easy to work with, and it still looks great after 4+ months on my bars. Plus, its a perfect match for my new Arione.
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I've never had any problems with bar tape unravelling, assuming it is the type with an adhesive backing. That said, I like the Deda stuff. The most important thing is a tight, consisent wrap in the right direction. Parktools has a great tutorial:
https://www.parktool.com/repair/readhowto.asp?id=10
-Robb
https://www.parktool.com/repair/readhowto.asp?id=10
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Wrap the tape tight; but, more importantly wrap inwards, say toward the saddle.
i've read that the wrap should be going away from you as it goes over the top of the bars.
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I just had the Cork Plus stuff put on my bars. Seem pretty nice and it's tapered at the edges so it lays nice and flat where it overlaps.
https://www.ems.com/catalog/product_d...34374302874537
https://www.ems.com/catalog/product_d...34374302874537
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I picked up the gel tape that Performance has. I really took my time and made sure I wrapped it well. So far (200+ miles) it's held really well. Make sure you clean your bars well before you wrap them.
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I used this to learn how to tape bars. Haven't had a problem with tape unraveling.
https://www.parktool.com/repair/readhowto.asp?id=71
https://www.parktool.com/repair/readhowto.asp?id=71
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If you wrap it right, it shouldn't come unravelled for thousands of miles. In fact, I have never had bar tape come unwrapped, even after crashes -- I only replace it because it physically starts to wear out and get tattered.
Check some of the online tutorials (there is lots of advice on this forum, but the search function is not working) and try wrapping the bars properly.
FWIW, Cinelli cork tape works just fine.
Check some of the online tutorials (there is lots of advice on this forum, but the search function is not working) and try wrapping the bars properly.
FWIW, Cinelli cork tape works just fine.
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That is it. Right bar wrap counter clockwise and left clockwise was what I was "attemting" to say, thanks to the description by Park Tool. If you do that, it will not unravel or split. I knew what I was trying to say; but, of course, couldn't articulate my thoughts. In the past, it was always frustrating to me to put the new bar wrap on and after a sweaty ride or two it starts splitting. Hasn't happened since.
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Your tennis elbow is most likely caused from riding straight arms and no bend in your elbow(s). Bending your elbows will use your muscles in your arms to absorb road shock vs your tendons.