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clutchy 08-30-06 06:45 PM

Lemond Sarthe, 2200, Allez comp?
 
So I've been checking out some new bikes...

Right now i'm looking at the Lemond Sarthe, Trek 2200/2100, or one of the specialized Allez models probably the comp or elite.

I've currently got a 32 yr. old steel nashiki that's a lot of fun to ride, but i think i want something with a little more performance.


What do you guys think of the Sarthe?

Walter 08-30-06 06:59 PM

I really, really, really like steel LeMonds. I've got a 03 or 04 Maillot Jaune (Reynolds 853) and it's my #1 even though by nature I'm a bit of a retro-grouch and do own an 80s Basso with full Super Record. The Sarthe would be my bike if I were in the market new MJs are some mix of different material and IMO are pretty generic nowadays. The Sarthe carries on the steel legacy. I think they use a TrueTemper alloy instead of the Reynolds currently.

LeMond makes a big deal about their geometry and I do find the "relaxed" seattube with the resulting longer toptube to be comfortable and efficient. You need to ride it.

Can't give you much about the others but for me it begins and ends with the LeMond.

Of course I don't care that LeMond doesn't get along with Lance either. ;)



:beer:

BillyD 08-30-06 07:04 PM


Originally Posted by Walter
I really, really, really like steel LeMonds.
Can't give you much about the others but for me it begins and ends with the LeMond.:beer:

+1
He took the words right out of my mouth . . . damn him!

slide13 08-30-06 07:08 PM

Yeah, Lemond all the way IMO. My brother has a Sarthe and my dad rides a Croix de Fer. I used to have a Buenos Aires back when they were all steel. The steel Lemonds are outstanding bikes. They ride beautifully, look great and are an awesome value.

Serpico 08-30-06 07:08 PM

get the lemond, those other two aren't even in the same league

nice frames imo

SDRider 08-30-06 07:26 PM


Originally Posted by Walter
I really, really, really like steel LeMonds. I've got a 03 or 04 Maillot Jaune (Reynolds 853) and it's my #1 even though by nature I'm a bit of a retro-grouch and do own an 80s Basso with full Super Record. The Sarthe would be my bike if I were in the market new MJs are some mix of different material and IMO are pretty generic nowadays. The Sarthe carries on the steel legacy. I think they use a TrueTemper alloy instead of the Reynolds currently.

LeMond makes a big deal about their geometry and I do find the "relaxed" seattube with the resulting longer toptube to be comfortable and efficient. You need to ride it.

Can't give you much about the others but for me it begins and ends with the LeMond.

Of course I don't care that LeMond doesn't get along with Lance either. ;)

:beer:

I too like the LeMond steel bikes. I bought a trashed 2000 Zurich frame on ebay back in December and had it stripped down and repainted then I built it up with Campy Chorus 9spd. The paint job was a mess but the frame was very sound so it made a fine candidate for refurbishing. I've always wanted to buy another steel bike and outfit it with Campy components since I had my 1970s Motobecane LeChampion stolen back in the early 90s. I'd still have that bike today if it weren't stolen. The LeMond isn't a lugged Reynolds 531 bike but I love it and the way it rides...in many ways it's better than my old Motobecane. I'm still toying with the idea of buying a set of sewup wheels for it.

http://img68.imageshack.us/img68/958/img4318a2wvsw8.jpg
Sorry, I can't resist an opportunity to post a pic of this bike. :D

Walter 08-30-06 07:30 PM

[QUOTE+SDRider]Sorry, I can't resist an opportunity to post a pic of this bike. [/QUOTE]

Perfectly understandable. :)




:beer:

Trekke 08-30-06 07:48 PM

I have had a Sarthe for 18 months and 7000 miles. Love it. There are a couple of things to pay attention to however. The Lemond geometry is not for everyone and traditionally you will need a size small than you might think you traditionally ride. Also the Sarthe I have has campy shifting which is great but they used Truvativ cranks (with the Bontrager name) and there is a finish problem after several months of use. Lemond replaced the crank set for me one day short of a year warranty. Now 6 months later the problem is back. I have seen other post on this particular issue.

Other than that the Sarthe is a super bike. Very nice traditional steel ride with the added benefit of strategically placed carbon components and super nice wheels (Bontrager Race Lite). My vote would always be for the best fit. If that were equal the Sarthe is my pick.

clutchy 08-30-06 11:42 PM

I appreciate all the feedback guys, hopefully the LBS will get one in soon. All they have now is the chambery... I think they're waiting for the '07s to come in...


I really love the '05 orange so classic, but on the '07 bike they went to a 105/ultegra mix... so no campy. We'll see about the crank problem... SWEET bike SDR!!

I need to get myself fitted.


have you guys ever used this? http://www.competitivecyclist.com/za...LCULATOR_INTRO

baj32161 08-31-06 05:14 AM


Originally Posted by Walter
I really, really, really like steel LeMonds. I've got a 03 or 04 Maillot Jaune (Reynolds 853) and it's my #1 even though by nature I'm a bit of a retro-grouch and do own an 80s Basso with full Super Record. The Sarthe would be my bike if I were in the market new MJs are some mix of different material and IMO are pretty generic nowadays. The Sarthe carries on the steel legacy. I think they use a TrueTemper alloy instead of the Reynolds currently.

LeMond makes a big deal about their geometry and I do find the "relaxed" seattube with the resulting longer toptube to be comfortable and efficient. You need to ride it.

Can't give you much about the others but for me it begins and ends with the LeMond.

Of course I don't care that LeMond doesn't get along with Lance either. ;)



:beer:

Who's this Lance guy?:D :D :D

craign04 08-31-06 06:13 AM


Originally Posted by clutchy
I appreciate all the feedback guys, hopefully the LBS will get one in soon. All they have now is the chambery... I think they're waiting for the '07s to come in...


I really love the '05 orange so classic, but on the '07 bike they went to a 105/ultegra mix... so no campy. We'll see about the crank problem... SWEET bike SDR!!

I need to get myself fitted.


have you guys ever used this? http://www.competitivecyclist.com/za...LCULATOR_INTRO

no more campy on any lemonds... trek is in cahoots with that japanese fishing rod company.


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