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Would my LBS pricematch?

Old 09-05-06, 01:09 AM
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Would my LBS pricematch?

Hello,
Finally after few weeks, Ive decided to go with Trek 1500 as my first bike.
My LBS sells this new discovery 2007 version for $1109 dollars but with some research, I found the bike dealer in california who sells them for $999.
My question is.. will they pricematch? I even have the copy of their website in california with $999 price on it with same colour bike and etc.
Has anyone have done this before? if so, what is the best way to ask LBS for a pricematch?
Thanks
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Old 09-05-06, 01:13 AM
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I think you'd have to ask your LBS that question.

It's not much lower so they probably would match it to get the sale. It just depends on what their margin is and whether they want to keep you as a customer.
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Yep...gonna have to ask them. I would be somewhat surprised if they didn't but it's up to them.

Another thing to consider is that it is only a $110 savings. If they won't price match you may be better off buying from the local shop anyway. Depending on shipping vs. local sale tax the savings may be less and you've got to ask yourself where you're going to take your bike for service. I'm guessing you're probably not going to send it back to Cali for service. My LBS hasn't charged me for any of the tune ups on any of the bikes I've bought from them. I doubt they would give me free service on a bike that I bought from another shop. Paying for a couple of service visits could cost more than the discounted price. Remember, sometimes a bargain isn't a bargain.

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I did a similar thing when buying a Veloce groupset recently. My LBS didn't match the online price but they lowered it enought that I was happy to get it from them. I'm not loaded but I like to support local businesses and they've been very good to me in the past.
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Originally Posted by mcoomer
Yep...gonna have to ask them. I would be somewhat surprised if they didn't but it's up to them.

Another thing to consider is that it is only a $110 savings. If they won't price match you may be better off buying from the local shop anyway. Depending on shipping vs. local sale tax the savings may be less and you've got to ask yourself where you're going to take your bike for service. I'm guessing you're probably not going to send it back to Cali for service. My LBS hasn't charged me for any of the tune ups on any of the bikes I've bought from them. I doubt they would give me free service on a bike that I bought from another shop. Paying for a couple of service visits could cost more than the discounted price. Remember, sometimes a bargain isn't a bargain.

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If you figure $50 - $75 more to ship from CA the price difference is really small. Why not ask if that's the best he can do. They might discount it a little or give you a discount on accessories. If you have cash remind the shop that they don't have to incur the credit card surcharge. That's good for a 2% - 4% discount depending on what their bank charges them.

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Originally Posted by don_lee103
Hello,
Finally after few weeks, Ive decided to go with Trek 1500 as my first bike.
My LBS sells this new discovery 2007 version for $1109 dollars but with some research, I found the bike dealer in california who sells them for $999.
My question is.. will they pricematch? I even have the copy of their website in california with $999 price on it with same colour bike and etc.
Has anyone have done this before? if so, what is the best way to ask LBS for a pricematch?
Thanks
Don
Do you live in California?

Most shops will price match competitiors. If I am in New York and a customer comes in with an internet ad from Chicago for example, that's not a competitor. Within the same town or city is a competitor. In situations like that, for all we know they have stopped selling Trek and want to get rid of the bike...within my own town, I'll know what's up with the competition.

If you don't live in CA and buy that bike, as someone mentioned, you'd pay the shipping. No shop will pay for the shipping to you on a bike like that...they sell a lot of them and it will sell within their own community.

If it was me, I wouldn't, but as someone else said, I might discount accessories.
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I find LBS's a little hesitant to match online businesses but like one post stated, they may lower their price to take a little sting out of it.
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Originally Posted by don_lee103
Hello,
Finally after few weeks, Ive decided to go with Trek 1500 as my first bike.
My LBS sells this new discovery 2007 version for $1109 dollars but with some research, I found the bike dealer in california who sells them for $999.
My question is.. will they pricematch? I even have the copy of their website in california with $999 price on it with same colour bike and etc.
Has anyone have done this before? if so, what is the best way to ask LBS for a pricematch?
Thanks
Don
Short sighted view to always try to get the lowest price. You want a relationship with the LBS so that if/when things go wrong you have somewhere to turn.

If some LBS in California is selling a bike for $110 less than your shop is selling it for, sure you should ask for a pricematch. Then you should expect them to add the cost of boxing/shipping/assembly which all together will probably exceed any savings.

Better you should ask for a discount on items that you'll need anyway. Of course, you're probably planning on mail ordering those.
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Originally Posted by H1449-6
Short sighted view to always try to get the lowest price. You want a relationship with the LBS so that if/when things go wrong you have somewhere to turn.

If some LBS in California is selling a bike for $110 less than your shop is selling it for, sure you should ask for a pricematch. Then you should expect them to add the cost of boxing/shipping/assembly which all together will probably exceed any savings.

Better you should ask for a discount on items that you'll need anyway. Of course, you're probably planning on mail ordering those.
You work for a LBS don't you.....lmao! I support my LBS when I can, but when it comes to several hundred dollars difference, loyalty only goes so far.
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Originally Posted by msheron
You work for a LBS don't you.....lmao! I support my LBS when I can, but when it comes to several hundred dollars difference, loyalty only goes so far.

a) No I don't, but I have a great relationship with my LBS in part because I don't nickle and dime them.
b) $110 << "several hundred dollars difference"
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Originally Posted by H1449-6
a) No I don't, but I have a great relationship with my LBS in part because I don't nickle and dime them.
b) $110 << "several hundred dollars difference"
I did not state that in this case of this person there was a several hundred dollar savings............just if it came to it, my loyalty would be with my wallet!
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I was able to get my LBS to lower the price on my Madone about 600 dollars, based on Website advertisements by a dealer in California, and one in my hometown in PA. (I am currently in Jacksonville, FL)

When I showed hiom my license from PA, he saw that the shop was in my hometown, and new my parents could pick up the bike there and ship it in 3 days. Trek dealers wont sell over the phone. (At least they arent supposed to.)

That was on a 2006 model, and a lot of dealers were willing to move stock. Not sure how motivated they are on the new 2007 models yet.
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Ask for some very much needed stuff at discount - get some new shorts, tubes, patch kit and some other stuff. When buying a bike they will work with you more if you do it this way. They hear it all the time "so and so has this same thing for this much - I want you to sell it for that!" If you do it right you can walk out of there with over $110 off and not have your LBS think you are just "one of those people"

The internet has changes how LBs have to operate - they are working on slimmer and slimmer margins. Just work with them there and most of all $110 is nothing if it is a place that will really work with you later when you need something replaced, fixed, or new put on. It is better to be on good terms than next time they say "I don't like this guy, I am not going to cut him a deal" I see it and hear about it everyday.
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For $110 go with the LBS and always tip the mechanic.

When I walked into my shop with a problem and the guy in front of me was told to come get his bike at the end of the week and the mechanic looks at me and says, "wait a couple of minutes and I'll take care of you", and 20 minutes later you I'm back on the road, how much is that worth???

Granted, if it was a significant difference, I would say buy somewhere else, but for $110? Buy locally.
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But people, you have to understand that my Trek 1500 has the value range around $1000 dollars. Considering the $110 price difference between $999 and $1109 seems to be huge to me.(More than %10 of the bike price)
I know when it comes to buying madone 5.9 or something, $110 wouldnt matter as much because the bikes are dealt @ the ranges $4000-5000 prpobably.
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Good thing is I don't have to support my LBS (Local Bu!!*****)

I have spent all my money online, and if I need to fix something, I will bring to a bike shop I trust (only 30 miles away) to have them do it. And how offen do I need them to fix my bikes? Probably 2, 3 times per year.

When I walked into my shop with a problem and the guy in front of me was told to come get his bike at the end of the week and the mechanic looks at me and says, "wait a couple of minutes and I'll take care of you", and 20 minutes later you I'm back on the road, how much is that worth???
The shop can keep my bike for months and I still don't care actually, the less bikes I keep at home, the better for me. So for your question "how much is that worth?", I'd answer "nothing"

Granted, if it was a significant difference, I would say buy somewhere else, but for $110? Buy locally.
I think $110 is significant. You can get a new pair of Oakley, or a new pair of Carnac M5 and a lot more.

To the OP, you might have to pay for the shipping but you don't have to pay tax, while buying at the LBS, you don't have to pay for the shipping but you pay tax. So how much can you save from buying online? If you buy the bike from LBS, then you can get free service from them but that kind of service you can do it by yourself.
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Originally Posted by H1449-6
a) No I don't, but I have a great relationship with my LBS in part because I don't nickle and dime them.
b) $110 << "several hundred dollars difference"

you my friend are a spy...

I would like for you to slowly step away from the computer!
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Who cares about loyalty, I havent been to my LBS for over 6 months other than buying the regular tube/patch/lube.
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Personally, I wouldn't match it. First, the Trek dealer agreement forbids online/phone sales so I know the only way the guy is going to sell you the bike is if he doesn't care about the risk of losing the line.
Second, I know you're going to pay half the difference in shipping, then you need to assemble it and properly tune it, and hope nothing got damaged in transit. Given that it's your first bike, I don't see much benefit for you. Does your local shop offer any free service after the sale or discounts on accessories purchased at the same time as the bike? That would seem to me that it would be of more benefit to you than saving a bit initially.
Oh well, that's just my thoughts as a local bull$hitter. Glad to see people are growing up on here.
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I know all the guys are the shop I go to. I like going there sometimes to just hang out. I feel sorry for some of you who do not have a good relationship with you lbs. I get most things cheaper there than I do at nashbar or performance. In some cases I get the deal of what they pay plus 20% - works out to a hell of a deal on gear.
The shop can keep my bike for months and I still don't care actually, the less bikes I keep at home, the better for me. So for your question "how much is that worth?", I'd answer "nothing"
This is a joke right? are you writing to have your post count +1 - sell the the bike if it means nothing to you.
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Originally Posted by Waldo
Personally, I wouldn't match it. First, the Trek dealer agreement forbids online/phone sales so I know the only way the guy is going to sell you the bike is if he doesn't care about the risk of losing the line.
Second, I know you're going to pay half the difference in shipping, then you need to assemble it and properly tune it, and hope nothing got damaged in transit. Given that it's your first bike, I don't see much benefit for you. Does your local shop offer any free service after the sale or discounts on accessories purchased at the same time as the bike? That would seem to me that it would be of more benefit to you than saving a bit initially.
Oh well, that's just my thoughts as a local bull$hitter. Glad to see people are growing up on here.
I totally understand what you are talking about but what I am truly saying is that if I were to go to that bike shop which they sell the 1500 for $999, they would assemble for me as my LBS do for me, why would someone pay more $$$ to get the one from LBS? Not that I can go to California right now, but I'm just saying that I'm kind of pissed paying $110 more when California residents who pays $999 for it if they want the bike.
Also, I'm really suprised by people saying "meh" to $110. They have a quite significant value.. I mean you can buy a helmet, few gears or sunglasses if you wants. or 110 burgers to help the beggers down the street..
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MY LBS is currently selling that bike for $969

http://prairiepathcycles.com/PPSSales.html

Your shop should be willing to sell it to you at or near that price, since that seems to be the going rate around the country.
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My lbs just did a price match on a 5.2 SL Madone for me. Ask your bike shop if they will give you the sale price which should be about $949

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Originally Posted by JaredMcDonley
I know all the guys are the shop I go to. I like going there sometimes to just hang out. I feel sorry for some of you who do not have a good relationship with you lbs.

Ever stop to think that some (many?) of us might not be lucky enough to have an LBS *worth* forming a relationship with?

There are maybe 3 or 4 LBS's within an hour and a half of my house. One of them is a hole in the wall owned by enthusiasts, who are great people, but they're MTB'ers so they look at me weird, since I'm a roadie. The other two or three are basically staffed by kids who either don't care at all, or are convinced that they're "hardcore" and awesome at their job, when in fact they suck.

When I see this discussion about LBS vs. mailorder, to me it's a "which came first, the chicken or the egg?" type of thing. People have yelled at me on here because I don't blindly support my LBS's, so therefore I must somehow be part of what's causing them to suck so bad. As far as I know, they've pretty much always sucked, so I don't really have any option over considering online purchases.

Would I buy a bike online (vs. my LBS's) to save $110? Heck yes, in a heartbeat. Would I do it even if I were a brand new biker and didn't really know exactly what I was doing? Heck yes. I've helped a few "new" bikers buy bikes at the above mentioned stores, and the experiences were purely mediocre. Looking back, I wish I'd told them to go buy a moto from bikes direct or something.
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While LBS are your godsend when you are out of something that cant be ordered in time(like tubes, tires, advice what ever) I find the "only support your local bike shop" idea flawed. Do you avoid any chain restaurants, fast food, gas stations. Competition drives the marketplace and a company that is willing to offer their customers a great discount and operate on razor thin margins hoping to turn a profit in volume sales should not be penalized for doing so.

$110=22 tubes
$110=4 conti 4000 tires (when ordered from probikekit.com )
$110=new jersey and bib shorts
That is a good savings to me.
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