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55 miles = pain!!! Help!

Old 09-05-06, 06:37 AM
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55 miles = pain!!! Help!

I rode 55 miles, which is my longest ride, and I am bruised from my saddle under my testicles in the soft tissue. I kept ice on it last night and everything feels much better today other than tough to sit. Any advise? Should I shop for a new saddle?

Note that I stand frequently to avoid these types of things, but it didn't help.
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What kind of saddle and shorts or bibs are you using?
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Okay.............the image of your post is killing me and I will never be the same! As far as another saddle, could it be your not use to those distances yet and need to build up the old butt? Just a thought before you sink big cash into another saddle that may be worse than what you have.
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your 'taint is bruised?

how?

scratch that. i don't really want to know.

maybe a new saddle, or a quality pair of bibs, and consider a visit to a bike fitter.
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If you where having numbness then it's a fit and/or saddle issue. For bruising could be the way you handle small bumps. Raising your butt a little will help. Lowering your tire pressure will also soften the ride.
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Originally Posted by keith_b00ne
I rode 55 miles, which is my longest ride, and I am bruised from my saddle under my testicles in the soft tissue. I kept ice on it last night and everything feels much better today other than tough to sit. Any advise? Should I shop for a new saddle?

Note that I stand frequently to avoid these types of things, but it didn't help.

From that description, your sitting too far forward on your saddle. Move back onto your sit bones.
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I have quality 8 panel shorts and a stock saddle that comes on a Lamond Tourmelet. I have a short torso and do naturally ride forward on my saddle and find myself pushing back on it. Maybe I could move it up a few mm?
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[QUOTE=msheron]Okay.............the image of your post is killing me and I will never be the same![QUOTE]

This thread is useless without pictures!!!! Scratch that.... That would be gross.
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Originally Posted by keith_b00ne
I have quality 8 panel shorts and a stock saddle that comes on a Lamond Tourmelet. I have a short torso and do naturally ride forward on my saddle and find myself pushing back on it. Maybe I could move it up a few mm?
If you can get a proper fitting this might help your - uh - area in question. Gotta protect the naughty bits as best you can for many, many reasons.
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Originally Posted by keith_b00ne
I have quality 8 panel shorts and a stock saddle that comes on a Lamond Tourmelet. I have a short torso and do naturally ride forward on my saddle and find myself pushing back on it. Maybe I could move it up a few mm?

How about the tilt of your saddle? Maybe you need to level it out if it is tipped forward.
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I have been having the same problem...although not so much the bruising as just soreness and discomfort. I'm still working on solving the problem, but my bike fitter tried TILTING THE SADDLE FORWARD. I know this is contrary to both the last post and common sense, but it has helped some. He explained it to me this way: Your pelvis isn't necessarily level when you're riding; it may be tilted forward, even more so if you spend much time on the drop bars. So you don't necessary want the seat level. Tilting the seat forward causes the seat level to match the angle your hips are at.

Just my experience. Take it with a grain of salt as I've only owned a road bike for 3 months and am still in the process of getting fitted to it. I've practically got a monthly appointment at the LBS to tweak things and ask questions.
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Originally Posted by keith_b00ne
I have quality 8 panel shorts and a stock saddle that comes on a Lamond Tourmelet. I have a short torso and do naturally ride forward on my saddle and find myself pushing back on it. Maybe I could move it up a few mm?
If it's the Bontrager that Trek puts on everything, get a new saddle.
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Saddle might be the problem as well. I have an Lemond Tourmalet and after 15 miles my butt hurts. No bruising but it isn't a very good saddle. IMHO
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I'd look into one of the saddles with the void where your taint goes. I love the Selle Italia version, and have also been very happy with the Performance $35 version (road race). On the other hand, I've never had a problem with any saddle, and have ridden dozens of different designs and brands.

Make sure you are sitting with pressure on your sit bones. The bottoms of your hips should be carrying the weight, not your taint. Riding too far forward is certainly a problem. I would move the saddle up until you feel like you're falling off the back, then back it up slightly from there -- but all without changing your hip angle on the bike. If needed, you might look at a shorter stem too.

+1 on the professional fit. It's worth it.
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saddle and/or fit. I got my first road bike this year and about a month after getting it I did my first metric century on it. Everything else was sore (legs etc) but my seat felt great. (so did my wrists for that matter).

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If you rode a stock Bontrager saddle for 55 miles than I salute you! Time to change. I ride Brooks but do look around and see what works for you.
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Originally Posted by daytonian
If it's the Bontrager that Trek puts on everything, get a new saddle.
Agreed! I have it on my Lemond and its my next upgrade! I only need go over 25 miles and I'm numb as all hell!
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Originally Posted by keith_b00ne
I have quality 8 panel shorts and a stock saddle that comes on a Lamond Tourmelet. I have a short torso and do naturally ride forward on my saddle and find myself pushing back on it. Maybe I could move it up a few mm?
2 things:

Stock saddle is prolly crap

Do not move saddle forward, move ass back. If reach is too far, shorten stem.
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Get a Brooks saddle, adjust it accordingly. Give it awhile to break in. At some point the seat will develop indentations that contour the sits bones. Plastic racing saddles are not comfortable. They don't breathe, and make the butt sore.They cost a lot for a crappy asian made product. Brooks is made from a mom and pop style industry. Maybe produced in good numbers but it's not a 90$ specialized plastic piece of crap. I'm sick of idiots saying how good a plastic saddle is based on trend. Brooks are tried tested and true.
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There are a lot of good saddles out there. I have had good luck with the Avocet 02. I also like the old Sella San Marco Rolls. Still lots of pros using the Rolls.

But, a saddle is a rather personal thing.... what one rider may love, another may hate....
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Did you build up to this ride, or have you just been doing some 10 milers and decided one day to do 55? Its very important to build up distance and saddle time. If you are having severe pain, you should have stopped long before this happened. I would definitely not ride again until it is healed. Seriously, as a guy... that is one area you really need to take special care of. You dont want to end up with permanent numbness or erection... not cool.

That being said. Glad to hear you did 55.. thats a great accomplishment! Adjust the bike, and keep on truckin!
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Originally Posted by ranger5oh
Did you build up to this ride, or have you just been doing some 10 milers and decided one day to do 55? Its very important to build up distance and saddle time. If you are having severe pain, you should have stopped long before this happened. I would definitely not ride again until it is healed. Seriously, as a guy... that is one area you really need to take special care of. You dont want to end up with permanent numbness or erection... not cool.

That being said. Glad to hear you did 55.. thats a great accomplishment! Adjust the bike, and keep on truckin!
My thoughts exactly. You need to build up to this distance. The first few times I rode 45+ miles my a$$ was killing me by the time I finished the ride. You just need to keep doing longer rides. Take a couple days off and then do a short quick ride to see how that feels then do a longer ride a couple days later if everything feels okay.

What are your typical rides like? How do you feel after them?

I've been off the bike for about a week at a time for the last few weeks and I did a 30 mile ride today...man, I felt like I just ran out of gas at the end and my nether regions were sore but they're fine now. I just need to ride more...it's back to commuting for me starting this week.

BTW-I felt the same at every 50+ mile ride I did leading up to my first century ride this September. About mile 50 my butt started hurting but about 10-15 miles later I wasn't feeling any pain down there. No numbness either.

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Originally Posted by PolishPostal
From that description, your sitting too far forward on your saddle. Move back onto your sit bones.

I didn't read through responses so this may have been covered, but, this may be right. You are "hanging" down on your saddle and the weight is going to your pubic bones, not your sit bones. This often occurs when your saddle is not set back far enough. Try moving your saddle back, and you may need a setback post if you don't already have one.

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I had a similar problem although I'm not riding nearly as far as you. I angled my saddle down and slid it a bit forward and it was a completely different ride. Before that I was icing my manhood and thought I just had to deal with the pain. It really was the slightest adjustments that made the difference between extreme agony and complete comfort.
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you folks are missing an important question: did the OP wear underwear between the now bruised appendage and the cycling shorts?

Cotton?

I'm out. I can't stay too much longer in this post. The mental image is brutal.
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