Took my first hit from a vehicle-launched object today...
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Originally Posted by Bontrager
Someone's got a problem with his insecurity. 
Don't blame him because he chose to suffer through medical school...
Don't blame him because he chose to suffer through medical school...
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Your rights end where another poster's feelings begin.
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Originally Posted by urbanknight
Two middle school boys in Texas tied a lady up and threw her off of a bridge to her death.
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Originally Posted by existence
was the victim a doctor?? 
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Originally Posted by DrPete
Oh, I was definitely happy about that...
It's just amazing that somehow riding a bike can demote someone from an educated professional that these little pukes would usually address by an official title to a big rolling bulls-eye for beverage containers.
It's just amazing that somehow riding a bike can demote someone from an educated professional that these little pukes would usually address by an official title to a big rolling bulls-eye for beverage containers.
People are what they are....and you can thank their parents for that.
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Originally Posted by existence
pull your head in.
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Originally Posted by KrisPistofferson
Umm, I've read enough of Dr. Pete's posts to see that he mentions his occupation all the time, and usually it is completely irrelevant to the topic at hand. Nor are existence and I the only ones who have pointed this out. Plus, from what I know of all the Aussies I've ever known, pretensiousness really rubs them the wrong way, it's a cultural thing, apparently. So don't blame existence because he had to suffer through y'all's posts.
As with many on this forum, doctors and non-doctors alike, I love what I do and it is a significant part of my day-to-day existence. Discussing it in a forum about an activity that we all participate in, last I checked, isn't against any rules. I don't recall reading anywhere in the FAQ's that what users do off the bike is off limits...
Cycling is a sport practiced by actual, 3-dimensional people, with families, jobs, careers, and interests that are not "relevant to the topic at hand," but do help to define a person and their personality. So, sorry you have to "suffer" through that, but in this case it would seem that existence is actually well ahead of me in bandwidth wasted on the subject. Shouldn't you be making HIM apologize to US for being so off-topic?
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DANGER!!! WARNING!!! HIJACK ALERT!!!
By the way, it's "You're American"...if you want to make a point that anyone will take seriously...
1. Get the contractions correct.
2. Capitalize
Like, "You're Australian." Not, "your australian", as that would infer that I, or the Doctor, owns an Australian.
Oh, and I am glad to know that murder is over the line, overstepping the mark.
By the way, it's "You're American"...if you want to make a point that anyone will take seriously...
1. Get the contractions correct.
2. Capitalize
Like, "You're Australian." Not, "your australian", as that would infer that I, or the Doctor, owns an Australian.
Oh, and I am glad to know that murder is over the line, overstepping the mark.
Originally Posted by existence
i live in the real world. you cannot control adolescents - you merely have to continue to push them in the right direction until they figure it out for themselves.
dont use extreme examples as a platform for broader policy...oh wait your american...
seriously though dr pete wasnt hurt and what they threw at him was relatively harmless...ofcourse its not ideal and if he had the opportunity to ride up to the car ofcourse he should of made a point of it. i often find myself riding in the afternoon when school breaks up for the day and the kids on the buses love to heckle me and throw bits and peices (all harmless items - pens, paper, apple cores) at me - i often poke my tongue out at them and make weird faces - they laugh. kids are kids. the majority of them will be norty at some stage and the majority know where the line in the sand is. if they overstep the mark then by all means bring them into line (i.e when the MURDER someone).
children are opportunistic and creative...dr petes bum was a good target for their cup of water/ice and by all reports they suceeded!!! im sure they had a great laugh about it all on the way home in the car. there seems to be no intent on their behalf to seriously harm dr pete nor does there seem to be evidence of systemic harrassment. just kids being kids.
dont use extreme examples as a platform for broader policy...oh wait your american...
seriously though dr pete wasnt hurt and what they threw at him was relatively harmless...ofcourse its not ideal and if he had the opportunity to ride up to the car ofcourse he should of made a point of it. i often find myself riding in the afternoon when school breaks up for the day and the kids on the buses love to heckle me and throw bits and peices (all harmless items - pens, paper, apple cores) at me - i often poke my tongue out at them and make weird faces - they laugh. kids are kids. the majority of them will be norty at some stage and the majority know where the line in the sand is. if they overstep the mark then by all means bring them into line (i.e when the MURDER someone).
children are opportunistic and creative...dr petes bum was a good target for their cup of water/ice and by all reports they suceeded!!! im sure they had a great laugh about it all on the way home in the car. there seems to be no intent on their behalf to seriously harm dr pete nor does there seem to be evidence of systemic harrassment. just kids being kids.
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Originally Posted by roadwarrior
Doc...you are giving them way too much credit.
People are what they are....and you can thank their parents for that.
People are what they are....and you can thank their parents for that.
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Originally Posted by matagi
You can't always blame their parents. Teenagers are a bit like dogs - get one on their own and they are generally fine, get them in a pack and their behaviour deteriorates significantly.
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Originally Posted by 55/Rad
I've been fortunate to not have too many things tossed my way....good that it wasn't anything worse.
OTOH - I can't tell you how many dozens of times my wheels have spit a rock into the side of a car. I even had one guy stop, get out of his car and demand my name and license. It ended when he couldn't find any damage. Not that he would have gotten a red cent even if there was.....
55/Rad
OTOH - I can't tell you how many dozens of times my wheels have spit a rock into the side of a car. I even had one guy stop, get out of his car and demand my name and license. It ended when he couldn't find any damage. Not that he would have gotten a red cent even if there was.....
55/Rad
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Originally Posted by DrPete
Oh, I was definitely happy about that...
It's just amazing that somehow riding a bike can demote someone from an educated professional that these little pukes would usually address by an official title to a big rolling bulls-eye for beverage containers.
It's just amazing that somehow riding a bike can demote someone from an educated professional that these little pukes would usually address by an official title to a big rolling bulls-eye for beverage containers.
being a doc should maybe make you understand the value of every single human beings life..
Just not sure how relevant it is that if they met you in your office you would of been adress my an official title so therefore they should take your life seriously. Official title or not, any human beings deserve the same respect of not being put in dangerous, even perhaps life threathning situation.
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Originally Posted by blonduathlongrl
humm...it doesnt matter if you are a professionnal.. Joe the car repair guy's life is as important.
being a doc should maybe make you understand the value of every single human beings life..
Just not sure how relevant it is that if they met you in your office you would of been adress my an official title so therefore they should take your life seriously. Official title or not, any human beings deserve the same respect of not being put in dangerous, even perhaps life threathning situation.
being a doc should maybe make you understand the value of every single human beings life..
Just not sure how relevant it is that if they met you in your office you would of been adress my an official title so therefore they should take your life seriously. Official title or not, any human beings deserve the same respect of not being put in dangerous, even perhaps life threathning situation.
Again, sorry if this came across as a "you should respect me because of my title" statement.
Perhaps I should re-phrase...
It's just amazing that somehow riding a bike can demote someone from a respected adult with a job, a home, hopes, dreams, and a soon-to-be wife who he loves more than anything to a big rolling bulls-eye for beverage containers.
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Originally Posted by DrPete
I agree with you 100%. I mentioned it in a later post, and my apologies if I was misconstrued. I was just using that as an example. The point I was trying to make is that we're all real, 3-dimensional human beings with lives, etc., and in order for someone to think it's OK to make us targets for throwing things at I think there's a certain dehumanizing process that takes place.
Again, sorry if this came across as a "you should respect me because of my title" statement.
Perhaps I should re-phrase...
Better? I think it makes the point just as well.
Again, sorry if this came across as a "you should respect me because of my title" statement.
Perhaps I should re-phrase...
Better? I think it makes the point just as well.
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Originally Posted by Chad's Colnago
Sorry to hear about that Dr.Pete. It's frustrating isn't it?
Would've just been salt in the wound if the cup had contained a beverage that stained my brand new team kit on its maiden voyage...
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Originally Posted by urbanknight
Become an inner city middle school or high school teacher and you will get an even larger eye opener. Morals go out the window when the parents are working 2-3 jobs and not spending any time supervising or raising the kids. .
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Originally Posted by 531Aussie
Reminds of an episode of the U.S. "Wife Swap" I saw that I'll never forget. A well-off couple had three kids. The husband worked from about 7am to 7pm. The wife slept until about 11am while the nanny gots the kids up, got them breakfast and took them to school. The wife shopped, went to the gym, and hung out with her friends all day. The nanny picked up the kids from school, took them home, fed, and hung out with them. The wife gets home just in time to change to meet hubby at about 7pm, when they go out to eat, every night, just the 2 of them! If there was time, the parents would spend 1 hr at night with the kids!! Sad!
Dr. Pete:
Sorry about what happened and I understood the analogy between the same kids throwing items at you calling you by your title in another setting.
Yesterday while I was doing the NYC Century, were in the Bronx stopped at a light when a water ballon lands by my feet. Time to go boys!!!
Wildjim:
Put on a helmet. If you've weighed the pros and cons you know there are no pros to not wearing a helmet, end of story.
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Originally Posted by DrPete
Would've just been salt in the wound if the cup had contained a beverage that stained my brand new team kit on its maiden voyage...
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No, it's the kit from the new club/team I just joined. Granted it's not like there was a rigorous selection process or anything, but I'm still proud of it.
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To the original poster:
Feel terrible for you man. I've been shouted at plenty of times, and I've developed quite a loud "bark" to try to defend my personal space on the road. I live in the city and people definitely screw with me. It's stories like these that make me want to equip my jersey pockets with something a little stronger than Cliff Shots - like mace.
Anyway just keep rolling. Kids will be kids and they will always be idiots. I know that I was. And the only thing that matters to them is a) they are in a car and b) you are on a bike so c) they can throw something at you and get away lickity split. Simple math, really. Of course in the city these same teens become quite suprised when a) they yell at me from the car and b) I start a full out-of-the-saddle "I'm a comin' to git ya" sprint to the c) red light and line of stopped traffic ahead which they mistakenly ignored when they started taunting me. Oh those are good times good times for sure!
Feel terrible for you man. I've been shouted at plenty of times, and I've developed quite a loud "bark" to try to defend my personal space on the road. I live in the city and people definitely screw with me. It's stories like these that make me want to equip my jersey pockets with something a little stronger than Cliff Shots - like mace.
Anyway just keep rolling. Kids will be kids and they will always be idiots. I know that I was. And the only thing that matters to them is a) they are in a car and b) you are on a bike so c) they can throw something at you and get away lickity split. Simple math, really. Of course in the city these same teens become quite suprised when a) they yell at me from the car and b) I start a full out-of-the-saddle "I'm a comin' to git ya" sprint to the c) red light and line of stopped traffic ahead which they mistakenly ignored when they started taunting me. Oh those are good times good times for sure!
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Originally Posted by DrPete
As I recall, I mentioned my occupation in one line of this thread, and the rest of you chose to expand on it for another page.
Originally Posted by DrPete
It's just amazing that somehow riding a bike can demote someone from an educated professional that these little pukes would usually address by an official title to a big rolling bulls-eye for beverage containers.
your white, middle-class sense of entitlement is really shining through.
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Originally Posted by Cyclaholic
"educated professional" with an "official title" your white, middle-class sense of entitlement is really shining through.
your white, middle-class sense of entitlement is really shining through./this thread got stupid, fast.
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ps. Basing a theoretical "perceived status" on someone's screen name on a forum based on a pasttime, is ludicrous.
"Cyclaholic" implies a perceived status of an addict to bicycling. One who can't go without it, lest one suffers withdrawals.
Get some help for your addiction. Hitting Bikeforums does nothing to cure your disease.
/lay off DrPete, this discussion of his username has nothing to do with the original post. Really.
"Cyclaholic" implies a perceived status of an addict to bicycling. One who can't go without it, lest one suffers withdrawals.
Get some help for your addiction. Hitting Bikeforums does nothing to cure your disease.
/lay off DrPete, this discussion of his username has nothing to do with the original post. Really.
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Mo'Phat hit that nail on the head.
the thread is NOT about anyone's profession or social status,
it's about being a target while on the road.
How the hell do we make a difference or change the situation
when we can't even discuss it without breaking into
major arguements and sub groups ourselves?
there is a world of difference between a rock launched by a tire and
a water bottle thrown from a car.
marty
the thread is NOT about anyone's profession or social status,
it's about being a target while on the road.
How the hell do we make a difference or change the situation
when we can't even discuss it without breaking into
major arguements and sub groups ourselves?
Originally Posted by 55/Rad
OTOH - I can't tell you how many dozens of times my wheels have spit a rock into the side of a car.
a water bottle thrown from a car.
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Oh Please.
Every thread by DrPete is about his profession. He can't help himself. Look at his sig and his name. He brings it up with every chance he gets offering medical info and racing advice even though he's most likely still a resident and barely a cat 4 with some Greenbelt C races and mediocre cat 5 results. Dude got lapped at a mediocre 30 minute Crit up in Baltimore a few weeks ago, for cripe's sake.
Read that again: Lapped in a 30 minute crit. I don't care what other Cat 5 crit you raced the day before. That's just pathetic. Dude has no reason to be giving out advice.
Upper class though? I doubt it. Fool rocks a ****e flite with a triple chainring like the fat fred that he is.
Can't wait to see him get his monkey a$$ rocked again at Murad though.
Big fish in small forum ponds are extremely humorous in real life race situations.
Maybe he should just put a big "Ask me about my MD!" sticker on all his gear - then he'll get the respect he so richly deserves.
Every thread by DrPete is about his profession. He can't help himself. Look at his sig and his name. He brings it up with every chance he gets offering medical info and racing advice even though he's most likely still a resident and barely a cat 4 with some Greenbelt C races and mediocre cat 5 results. Dude got lapped at a mediocre 30 minute Crit up in Baltimore a few weeks ago, for cripe's sake.
Read that again: Lapped in a 30 minute crit. I don't care what other Cat 5 crit you raced the day before. That's just pathetic. Dude has no reason to be giving out advice.
Upper class though? I doubt it. Fool rocks a ****e flite with a triple chainring like the fat fred that he is.
Can't wait to see him get his monkey a$$ rocked again at Murad though.
Big fish in small forum ponds are extremely humorous in real life race situations.
Maybe he should just put a big "Ask me about my MD!" sticker on all his gear - then he'll get the respect he so richly deserves.