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DrPete 09-11-06 01:56 PM


Originally Posted by goaliedad30
While I get the senitment, 30,000 miles a year is 100 miles per day x 300 riding days per year. That's 6 days a week, every week, all year. Perhaps a slight exaggeration?

I just read a thread about Ekimov and his 40K/year training. He does want to do it for a living, after all...

A little more lenient, TrainingPeaks.com tells me that to be a pro racer you should expect to train about 1200 hours/year, which is 3 1/2 hours a day assuming you train EVERY SINGLE DAY OF THE YEAR.

Panic 09-11-06 01:56 PM

My LBS gives me a good discount, does that qualify me as a "pro"?

;)

mleess 09-11-06 01:57 PM


Originally Posted by Ryleeryno
Wanna be a pro? Start out by purchasing a Motobecane from Bikes Direct.

And if you ever need that extra boost in a race, make sure you dial it up to 400 watts.

You ride 20 miles a day? That's more than I ride, but it hardly seems like enough to build a base to become a pro rider. Elite runners log about 100-140 miles per week. And that's running! I would think you would need to be doing 4 to 5 times that distance in riding to build a base. But maybe you are genetically gifted and have the heart of a champion, so who am I to say? Good luck!

goldfish 09-11-06 02:06 PM

i'm starting to think this thread was started only because the OP knew it would get peoples panties in a twist...

simplyred 09-11-06 02:33 PM


Originally Posted by goaliedad30
While I get the senitment, 30,000 miles a year is 100 miles per day x 300 riding days per year. That's 6 days a week, every week, all year. Perhaps a slight exaggeration?

You haven't read Friel have you? ;)

A lot of racers log in tonnes of miles/year. And yes, expect multiple centuries a week if you plan to have a strong enough engine to hang with the big boys.

I think it's hard to "see" results - because we're training a muscle that's deep in our chests. Whereas if we were weightlifters - we can literally measure and see the definition created by workouts.

I'm hoping to cash in 200 miles/week as a student... that equates to ~ 6400 miles by April 2007.
Pretty pathetic if you consider what would be expected if I were to be pro. Then again, if I were - I wouldn't need to go to school and train at the same time...

-simplyred

sbornia 09-11-06 02:34 PM


Originally Posted by goldfish
i'm starting to think this thread was started only because the OP knew it would get peoples panties in a twist...

+1

PedalMasher 09-11-06 02:38 PM

I started cat 5 in May and am just about to upgrade to cat 3. I've sent Johan Brunyeel a couple emails but he hasn't returned them... what am I doing wrong?

pelotonracer 09-11-06 02:39 PM

Tears, sweat, though not really blood. Mostly tears (from screaming downhill) & gallons of sweat.

Doing 4 centuries a week helps too.

slowandsteady 09-11-06 02:53 PM

Let's put it this way. I ride as much or more than you do. I am 33, a woman, and 80 lbs overweight.

My brother was a professional rider for several years. He was VERY good, but VERY good is not the same as gainfully employed. He holds numerous Junior amateur records that still stand.

He was tremendously dedicated, hard working, did nothing else but ride, and still never made it to the tour. He made perhaps 20k a year and had to room with various families in Belgium that support cyclists. He had to learn to speak Flemish. He would ride in races that had payouts in food. Yes, at one point he raced for sausage. He raced constantly to make ends meet.

He had many connections in the racing world and had sponsors and coaches. He put more miles on his bikes than I did on my cars. To be a proracer means to make big sacrifices with little chance for returns. Be ready for it.

Corsaire 09-11-06 02:56 PM

Being able to put out naturally 350 watts on regular rides is a good start.

Corsaire

Patriot 09-11-06 03:03 PM

After reading all these posts, I think everyone is leaving out the most important factor.


If you truly want to become a PRO at your age, then you'll have to start by quitting Graduate school.

You'll need every minute of your day for training, resting, eating a proper diet, mainting an absolute mental focus (sans graduate school), and racing on a regular basis. This will without a doubt, take more time than graduate school can provide.

I mean not to sound like a killjoy, but you may be better off by concentrating on your studies and getting a normal job. One that you've already begun to prepare yourself for.

Oh, and there's no reason not to continue a very vigorous cycling lifestyle, including some racing.

pelotonracer 09-11-06 03:12 PM

Honestly, being a pro cyclist isn't a good job. You may think, I love cycling, I'll love it no matter what, by the time (if) you become a pro, it'll be BORING- I guarantee it. There's much more money to be made in the Big 4 sports- baseball, hockey, basketball, football. Jan Ullrich made like what, 2.5M Euros last year? $5M US- chump change in terms of a player at the very pinnacle of their sport.

worker4youth 09-11-06 03:18 PM


Originally Posted by botto
according to pedex all you have to is become a bike messenger and you're a pro :rolleyes:

Technically he's right. Anyone's "pro" if they get paid to do it. He's a professional bike messenger. He's not a professional racer.

I would go far as to say he's a professional biker.

worker4youth 09-11-06 03:21 PM


Originally Posted by Pizza Man
Here are the steps to become a Pro Racer:

I've been at this about 1 year so far, so

1) Ride lots - as much as you can and even more
2) Find group rides. If you're not the strongest guy there keep riding with this group until you are, then find a stronger group.
3) Get a USCF license. http://www.usacycling.org
4) Do your Cat 5 races, if you're dominating these races, get a coach and upgrade to Cat 4.
5) Cat 4 to Cat 3 should only take 3-6 races if you're really good and placing in the top 3. If you're not dominating Cat 4 the likelihood of going pro is about 10 million to 1.
6) Spend 4-8 races in Cat 3. If you're not consistantly in the top 3, the liklihood of going pro is about 1 million to 1.
7) Upgrade to Cat 2.
That's as far as I've made it so far.

I plan to really build a strong base this winter and next year I hope to move up to Cat 1 and try a couple stage races against the domestic pro teams (Toyota United, etc.). That will be the true test. If I can't hang with those guys I'll go back to racing in the local 35+ races and just have fun.

Even if you do go from Cat 5 to Cat 2 (or even Cat 1) in your first year the chance of becoming a pro racer are still very very slim. I have no plans to quit my day job......yet. :D

Good luck!

PM

ps, what part of CA are you moving to?


Pizza Man: The Winner of the 2009 Tour de France. You heard it here first. :D

botto 09-11-06 03:50 PM


Originally Posted by worker4youth
Technically he's right. Anyone's "pro" if they get paid to do it. He's a professional bike messenger. He's not a professional racer.

I would go far as to say he's a professional biker.

NOT!

But if you insist, then i was a pro chef when i worked at Mickey D's, DrPete was a pro driver when he was a valet, yada, yada, yada...

DrPete 09-11-06 03:53 PM


Originally Posted by botto
NOT!

But if you insist, then i was a pro chef when i worked at Mickey D's, DrPete was a pro driver when he was a valet, yada, yada, yada...

I didn't even realize that hauling that dead horse out would result in such a severe beating. :D

Miller2 09-11-06 04:06 PM


Originally Posted by goldfish
i'm starting to think this thread was started only because the OP knew it would get peoples panties in a twist...


HAHAHAHA...of course it was....

mike9903 09-11-06 04:10 PM

I love this thread, because I became a pro half way through it! This has been a GREAT day! :D

LA_Rider 09-11-06 04:10 PM


Originally Posted by worker4youth
I would go far as to say he's a professional biker.

I wouldn't.

"Professional biker" implies biking is the profession.

His profession is a messenger. The bike is simply a tool of the trade.

domestique 09-11-06 05:55 PM


Originally Posted by LA_Rider
I wouldn't.

"Professional biker" implies biking is the profession.

His profession is a messenger. The bike is simply a tool of the trade.

+1

What about me.... I work part time as a Pharmacist Technician.... does that mean I'm a pro drug dealer?

Mouton 09-11-06 06:06 PM


Originally Posted by domestique
What about me.... I work part time as a Pharmacist Technician.... does that mean I'm a pro drug dealer?

I think that makes you a Mule. ;)

worker4youth 09-11-06 06:19 PM


Originally Posted by botto
NOT!

But if you insist, then i was a pro chef when i worked at Mickey D's, DrPete was a pro driver when he was a valet, yada, yada, yada...

Yep, I would. Solely going by the matter of semantics, everything you say is correct.

Look at 2c of this definition:

http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/professional

nitropowered 09-11-06 07:28 PM

If you want to go pro, go to europe and start taking "vitamins". No joke, thats the way it rolls over there.

ka12na 09-11-06 07:38 PM

Ride for yourself man! Screw trying to be better than EVERYONE else... it's quite a # of people you know. >:o

uberclkgtr 09-11-06 08:05 PM


Originally Posted by Patriot
After reading all these posts, I think everyone is leaving out the most important factor.


If you truly want to become a PRO at your age, then you'll have to start by quitting Graduate school.

You'll need every minute of your day for training, resting, eating a proper diet, mainting an absolute mental focus (sans graduate school), and racing on a regular basis. This will without a doubt, take more time than graduate school can provide.

I mean not to sound like a killjoy, but you may be better off by concentrating on your studies and getting a normal job. One that you've already begun to prepare yourself for.

Oh, and there's no reason not to continue a very vigorous cycling lifestyle, including some racing.

I have a good friend who's in graduate school and is a consistent podium finisher in Cat1/2 races. He's getting his PhD in physics. It is possible, but it takes an extraordinary amount of discipline. Riding is a good relief from the rigors of grad school for sure. But competition at a high level takes a lot of time, something of which grad students are always in short supply.


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