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Campy vs. Shimano

Old 09-11-06, 05:43 PM
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Campy vs. Shimano

I hear the debate.....but I don't know the difference.

What are the pros/cons of both?

What is the Campy version of Dura Ace?

Is one less expensive? More reliable?

Give me the deal.
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Old 09-11-06, 05:53 PM
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The deal is one is Ducati and the other is Yamaha. Both have their pros and cons and both have their loyal followers.

There is one conclusion worth noting - the debate never ends.
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go and buy Sram

by the way, I think a european bike should be equiped with campy, while all american bikes equiped with shimano
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Please stop this thread now..... The SEARCH function is currently working.... just type shimano vs. campy and be prepared to read into the new year.

Both are nice.. even the new SRAM is nice.... it comes down to preference. I personally perfer Campy, I have a lot of friends however I love Shimano. As long as you are riding I don't care what it is.
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SRAM, Campy, Shimano all have different ways of doing business on the shifting end. I suggest you go to your LBS and try 'em out as it's the only way you'll establish preference. They all make a damn fine product.
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Ok....two specific questions...I am not really asking which is better.....but rather what is the actual difference?

It seems that Campy has a thumb shifter that supposedly you can shift from any position on the bar?

Second...on Campy's website it is showing the 07 groups....are the 06 brake levers carbon fiber like the 07s?
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The mechanisms:
All shift to the larger cog by pushing the lever(s) inward. Shimano using the brake lever, Campy using the under lever, SRAM by pushing the under lever farther.

They shift to the smaller cog: Shimano by using the under lever, Campy by the thumb button (any way you can press it), and SRAM by pushing the under lever a little.

Campy alone allows for multiple shifts in each motion. It's also re-buildable for maintenance or repair.

Got to a shop. Learn.
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Originally Posted by CastIron
The mechanisms:
All shift to the larger cog by pushing the lever(s) inward. Shimano using the brake lever, Campy using the under lever, SRAM by pushing the under lever farther.

They shift to the smaller cog: Shimano by using the under lever, Campy by the thumb button (any way you can press it), and SRAM by pushing the under lever a little.

Campy alone allows for multiple shifts in each motion. It's also re-buildable for maintenance or repair.

Got to a shop. Learn.

Easier said than done....local shops only seem to have Shimano and a few SRAM bikes around. I have yet to see a Campy in person.
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Man that's sad. What heathen hinterland are you marooned on?
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I can answer the one question from your post that's objective (what's the Campy version of Dura-Ace?). Campy's high-end gruppo is called Record, and it goes head to head with Dura-Ace.

Of course, some Campy fanboys say that Campy's second-highest group (Chorus) is equal with Dura-Ace, and Record is beyond anything available today. Heh. But let's not go into that.
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Originally Posted by BillMC2
Ok....two specific questions...I am not really asking which is better.....but rather what is the actual difference?

It seems that Campy has a thumb shifter that supposedly you can shift from any position on the bar?

Second...on Campy's website it is showing the 07 groups....are the 06 brake levers carbon fiber like the 07s?

aside from contentious matter such as performance, reliability, etc... real palpable differences:

campy has cleaner cable routing
campy: shimano:

i prefer using the dual flipping levers on shimano to the thumb shifter on campy (theyre more difficult to get to). however, i just think campy look alot better due to the flatter hood design


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Man that's sad. What heathen hinterland are you marooned on?
back in austin i visited pretty much every single shop in town... only 1 high-end shop had campy (and barely any at that)... the other sighting was on a single used bianchi at another shop
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Price wise, chorus = Dura Ace, but if you think in terms of hierarchy, Record would equal Dura Ace
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Originally Posted by CastIron
Man that's sad. What heathen hinterland are you marooned on?

Augusta, Georgia.

Now if you want a deal on some Golf Clubs....I can get it.
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The nice looking carbon brake levers....are those 2006 models or just 07?
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carbon levers have been available w/ campy for a few years now...
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My '97 chorus shifts and performs better than my '05 Ultegra.
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Originally Posted by BillMC2
The nice looking carbon brake levers....are those 2006 models or just 07?
Record has had CF brake levers sense '03, I believe. My '04's are CF.
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Record has had CF brake levers sense '03, I believe. My '04's are CF.
What about chorus?
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Originally Posted by CastIron
The mechanisms:
All shift to the larger cog by pushing the lever(s) inward. Shimano using the brake lever, Campy using the under lever, SRAM by pushing the under lever farther.

They shift to the smaller cog: Shimano by using the under lever, Campy by the thumb button (any way you can press it), and SRAM by pushing the under lever a little.

Campy alone allows for multiple shifts in each motion. It's also re-buildable for maintenance or repair.

Got to a shop. Learn.
One point to add:

Campagnolo is the only one where the levers and buttons move in the same direction that the chain does for the shift that you are attempting to complete. This is true for both derailleurs, upshift and downshift.
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This article should be required reading for all new road riders!!! Although a little dated it gives the basic idea of the Campy v. Shimano debate...

http://www.biketechreview.com/archiv...vs_Shimano.htm
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Originally Posted by nitropowered
Price wise, chorus = Dura Ace, but if you think in terms of hierarchy, Record would equal Dura Ace
You're obviously still living in the 9-speed Dura-Ace world. The price of 7800-series Dura-Ace is as high if not higher than Campy Record.
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You're obviously still living in the 9-speed Dura-Ace world. The price of 7800-series Dura-Ace is as high if not higher than Campy Record.
Well, wholesale, chorus=dura ace in price. and you wouldn't believe the price on the sram groups.
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Originally Posted by BillMC2
What about chorus?
My newly arrived '06 chorus levers are carbon.
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