2006 vs 2007 Campy?
I know this has already been discussed in great length but can't find the old thread that had the answers I was looking for. What exactly is the difference between the 2006 and 2007 campy shifters? Is it just the QS? What exactly does the QS does differently? I know there isn't as many trims on the front, but that's all I know.
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Originally Posted by DRLski
I know this has already been discussed in great length but can't find the old thread that had the answers I was looking for. What exactly is the difference between the 2006 and 2007 campy shifters? Is it just the QS? What exactly does the QS does differently? I know there isn't as many trims on the front, but that's all I know.
THere are still the same number of trims on the front (at least with Record and Chorus. QS just decreases the amount of travel needed to cause a "click." Below Chorus the right shifters use the Escape mechanism... which totally blows. It limits the ability to dump as many gears as desired. I believe it drops two gears max. |
What level?
Changes for 2007 Record/Chorus: QS on the left lever, nothing on the right Centaur/Veloce: QS on the left lever, loss of the ability to drop multiple cogs on the back with the thumb shifter on the right Mirage/Xenon:now 10 speed. |
k, that answered my questions, thanks guys. think I'll stick to 2006 then until I can afford the chorus or record levels.
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Ok, I'm going to bump this thread instead of creating a new one...
Let's hear from the OWNERS of 2007 Campagnolo Veloce or Centaur: How many gears is it at a time with the Escape Mech in each direction? I've heard it both ways on downshifts, from multiple sources, and can't seem to get a straight answer anywhere. And I even think people are starting to mix up terminology of upshift/downshift/etc. So those who have used the stuff, spell it out for us all who are considering going with 2007 Campy Veloce or Centaur groupsets. :) |
Not an owner but everything I have heard says the thumb shifter (I woul dcall this going down the cassette) can do 1 gear at a time and the paddle will do up to 3 gears at a time.
Don't go by what Competitive Cyclist says on their site because they say it will work with Ergobrain and it wont. |
i have the 07 chorus levers & i must say that the QS feature is nice.
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Chopper - velonews says 1 downshift, a couple of the shops say 1 downshift. Cyclingnews (from mid-July) says 2 downshifts. It certainly could be that early rumors got rolling when the 'escape' news hit were wrong, or people misunderstood before printing the articles.
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I have 2007 Veloce shifters. Definitely 1 downshift (thumb).... doesn't bother me since I'm used to Shimano. +1 on the QS feature since I used to ride Veloce 9's and the long throw sucked bigtime.
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Suppose that settles it. Guess the 2 gear downshift was early rumors. I've already got Campy wheels on the way, its no worse than Shimano's best offering, and I like the feel of the Campy hoods far and above Shimano. So Veloce or Centaur it is still for the Flyte.
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07 Record is really nice. The QS left shifter still has all the trims that the 06 and older have. If I were to build up another bike (which i might in the near future) I would get Centaur or Veloce and use Chorus Shifters.
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Originally Posted by nitropowered
07 Record is really nice. The QS left shifter still has all the trims that the 06 and older have. If I were to build up another bike (which i might in the near future) I would get Centaur or Veloce and use Chorus Shifters.
that's what i did! :) 07 centaur with 07 chorus shifters.. (06 chorus alloy cranks & bb b/c i got them on a super closeout from a distributor- working at a shop really helped in finding that kind of stuff) it's been great! |
Originally Posted by 3MTA3
that's what i did! :) 07 centaur with 07 chorus shifters.. (06 chorus alloy cranks & bb b/c i got them on a super closeout from a distributor- working at a shop really helped in finding that kind of stuff) it's been great!
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I'm going to have one bike with Chorus shifters, the Veloce or Centaur on the Flyte has a fairly strict budget. I got the frame/handlebar/stem/seatpost for $150 from $470+, fork for $135 from $300+, Wheels for $255 from $370+.
How about this question - any difference in the chain rings between Centaur and Veloce? |
Well, they are certainly different by the pictures. The website says Ultra Drive Rings on the Centaur, and Exa Drive on the Veloce. Don't really know the difference.
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one of the main reasons I switched to Campy was the fact that I could go down an entire cassette with one shift, I'll stick with 2006 for now.
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Wish PBK would get their full line of Campy in stock so I could see approx what a full veloce group with the centaur crank would be. Suppose they've got enough on the website for me to add it up myself. But I'm a bit lazy. :p
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Originally Posted by cuda2k
Wish PBK would get their full line of Campy in stock so I could see approx what a full veloce group with the centaur crank would be. Suppose they've got enough on the website for me to add it up myself. But I'm a bit lazy. :p
I've also been reading some past threads about people getting OEM take-offs and used-looking stuff from 11speed. Has anyone dealt with them? |
Originally Posted by nitropowered
working at a shop is the death of your bank account isn't it? (i'm guilty as well)
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I don't think that the new 07 escape mechanism is as bad as people say. Yes 1 or 2 shifts at a time but, every other group does that. ALso, I think I remember reading how the shifting has actually gotten easier, it already was pretty easy. I suspect shifting takes very little time, and it would be nice if it was easier to shift for the FD anyways.
My 06 veloce is fantastic. I can downshift the entire spectrum of 10 gears in at once if I really push the lever down to the max. I can upshift 5 at a time if I push it to the max. It is not comfortable to do that though, so I only shift 2 gears at once anyways. If I saw some brand new 07 veloce shifters sitting at my doorstep, a gift from god, I would install them over the 06. |
Schweeet... Just won a Chorus QS front derailleur on ebay for $57 brand new... and so it begins. :D
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Good price Pete. I'm eyeing a Veloce FD for my mixed group build, but picking up a Chorus for that price you can't go wrong. Look forward to seeing it and the rest of the group on the new ride.
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Yeah, I've kinda decided to buy individual components and save the cranks for last, because my cranks are still working OK... I guess I get to be the guinea pig to try a QS front derailleur with STI brifters... :)
(edit) good night for derailleurs on ebay... just found an 07 chorus rear derailleur for cheap too! |
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