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notchback 10-02-06 05:49 PM

Hill Grades?
 
Can someone please explain hill grades to me? There are some rides I would like to do that have the grades listed but I don't really know what it means. Thanks in advance.

Tom Stormcrowe 10-02-06 07:17 PM

Smple slope formula rise/run ex: 100 feet rise an 250 feet distance is steep!

100ft/250ft=0.4 or a 40% Grade, a cliff with a vertical drop is undefined grade because you can't divide by 0, and a 7% grade = 7ft rise in 100 feet traveledhttp://www.madhatter.free.fr/smileys/albert.gif

johnny99 10-03-06 12:54 PM

You need to know both the grade and the length of the grade. Some people brag about 30% grades, but if they are only 10 feet long, they are over in just 1 or 2 pedal strokes. On a long climb, the average grade over 1 mile or more is much more interesting. Few paved roads (anywhere in the world) are steeper than 10% for more than 2 miles. In the USA, I believe the interstate highways and railroad tracks are never steeper than 6% for any distance.

On the other hand, sometimes you see stuff like this on state highways:
http://www.chainreaction.com/images/26percentgrade.jpg
State Highway 108 in eastern California.

waterrockets 10-03-06 01:59 PM


Originally Posted by Tom Stormcrowe
Smple slope formula rise/run ex: 100 feet rise an 250 feet distance is steep!

100ft/250ft=0.4 or a 40% Grade, a cliff with a vertical drop is undefined grade because you can't divide by 0, and a 7% grade = 7ft rise in 100 feet traveledhttp://www.madhatter.free.fr/smileys/albert.gif

+1 explanation. I'd add that a 100% grade is a 45-degree angle, for reference.

munkyv22 10-03-06 02:03 PM

Grades are like "fun ratings". If a hill has a 1% grade, it is going to be very little fun. If a hill has a 10% grade, well, that hill will be like 10 X more fun.

Follow?

oboeguy 10-03-06 02:13 PM


Originally Posted by waterrockets
+1 explanation. I'd add that a 100% grade is a 45-degree angle, for reference.

And a wall is an infinite grade. :D

ericgu 10-03-06 09:26 PM

As a general guide:

5% is a hill (as opposed to a roller, or a slight upgrade)
10% is a steep hill. Most riders will drop down to their lowest gears.
15% is a really steep hill. Even with low gearing (say, 30-25), some/many riders will need to tack back and forth and/or stand
20% is super steep. Almost everybody will have to tack.

Some riders who would be riding their first century might need to walk on a 10%

voltman 10-03-06 09:27 PM

I give all hills an F. All of them.

johnny99 10-03-06 09:32 PM


Originally Posted by voltman
I give all hills an F. All of them.

F = fun

chrisvu05 10-03-06 10:27 PM


Originally Posted by voltman
I give all hills an F. All of them.

I give them an F for "Freaking Awesome"

i love hills...too bad I'm not good at climbing them (i'm 245lbs)

come to florida and you will quickly miss the hills...i can ride 50 miles and only gain 250 ft in elevation...it is freaking boring.

Viceroy 10-03-06 10:32 PM


Originally Posted by munkyv22
Grades are like "fun ratings". If a hill has a 1% grade, it is going to be very little fun. If a hill has a 10% grade, well, that hill will be like 10 X more fun.

Follow?

Only if you are going down said hill.

Snicklefritz 10-03-06 11:05 PM


Originally Posted by Viceroy
Only if you are going down said hill.

Either that or if you are going uphill than a 10% grade means F = F/10

dauphin 10-03-06 11:15 PM

I've had a heck of a time climbing a two mile hill that averages 13.5%....God only knows what the higher percentages are..

terrymorse 10-04-06 12:14 AM


Originally Posted by dauphin
I've had a heck of a time climbing a two mile hill that averages 13.5%

What's the road? Two miles at 13.5% is special.

dauphin 10-04-06 12:22 AM


Originally Posted by terrymorse
What's the road? Two miles at 13.5% is special.

Iowa Hill Rd...just out of Colfax, CA

eegretCL 10-04-06 06:42 AM

This weekend I did my first big climb of the year. Pilot Mountain State Park in NC. In two miles the road climbs over 1000 feet. It took me 20 minutes at 90% effort to get up, and less than 5 to get down.

munkyv22 10-04-06 09:32 AM

Climbing hills is fun. Who among us has the little voice at the start of a descent that says "It's too steep, you can't get down it."? I don't think so. But how many have found a climb that your little voice tells you you can't do? Then you get out of the saddle, and build up your cadence, and you pump and you gasp for air, and the bike rocks under you and finally, as you start to develop tunnel vision, you crest it and can relax a little. You look back at the hill and say to your little voice "Don't tell me what I can't do. I am unstoppable."


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