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Making Aluminum Bikes Less Bone-Jarring. HOW? Recommendations Please.

Old 10-06-06, 01:22 PM
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As far as seatposts, I've found that the Specialized seatposts with those zertz elastomer inserts do dampen the ride quite well. The compact aluminum Aerotech frames are super stiff, and those carbon bits make those bikes very comfortable to ride - no road noise. Though I've never ridden one of those frames with an aluminum seatpost.
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Originally Posted by onRoffR
One acronym S.A.V.E. Synapse active vibration eliminating, or something like that rear triangle as well as the fork is suppose to have this as well. I would try the bike out before buying a lot of gear it may be just fine the way it is.
On Treks and Kleins it's called S.P.A. Hincapie rode one when he won Paris-Roubaix.

Orbea's Lobular frame used hydroformed aluminum tubing to improve the ride. Not cheap, though.

Many Al frames have carbon seatstays, carbon seatposts, and carbon forks to absorb vibration.
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Hincapie never won Paris-Roubaix. He has crashed out of most of them, however.
 
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Originally Posted by cmh
One question I have - How does a seatpost perform well for you over the years? By not breaking? By looking nice? I have never had a seatpost slip or break, but I wouldn't have thought to say they have "performed" better than any other seatpost.

Enjoy whatever bike you buy!
I weigh 220Ibs, and some other seatposts I tried pre the Thomson Elite usually get "squeaky" after a while. The Elites just "disappear" under me, even though they feel rock-solid. When you have been biking for the better part of twenty years, you notice great products like the Thomson Elites.

I have never been one that prefers form over function. I'll take a well-made, functional but ugly product anyday (Not saying the Thomson is ugly by any means) .

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Originally Posted by cmh
A carbon bike is just as likely to survive a spill as lightweight aluminum
When my bike was in the shop getting a new head tube I was riding on a borrowed CAAD5 frame with a dented seatstay which didn't seem to have any effect at all on the performance of the bike. (it was also a bit harsher than the Ti frame I'm used to but surprisingly not as much as I'd thought it would be)

When I was in the shop picking up my frame someone had brought in a Carbon Cervelo that appeared to have had a very similar crash to what dented the C'dale. Unfortunately for them though, the seatstay was broken in half instead of dented and useable.
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A lot of bike feeling of harshness or otherwise comes from the wheels and tyres, but an old cannondale frame is always gonna be harsh unfortunately
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I had one of the pre-3.0 fat-tube Cannondales. Boy was that a stiff monster, especially when I weighed 150lbs! Great for smooth crits, horrible for mountain downhills or long rides. My downhill times actually got worse compared to the soft alloy Peugeot Comete I had earlier; the 'dale was skipping off the tops of bumps and sending me wide on the entry of the corners.

Anyway, after I trashed the front-end in a crash, I put on an alloy fork and WOW, did that make a huge difference in comfort and smoother control. At the same time, I got lightweight wheels with 15ga double-butted spokes too, so I can't separate the fork from the wheels really. Also did what alanhouston recommends, I calibrated the pressure based upon tyre-size and weight rather just pumping up to full-max all the time. That made a big difference as well.

BTW - I doubt the seatpost makes a big difference anyway. You're applying load inline with its axis, it's not gonna flex at all.
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Originally Posted by CastIron
Carbon seatpost will solve all your problems.

Blatant lie.
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I just took a 5 day trip down the coast on my Trek 2300. Generic Sette CF seatpost (0 setback), Kestrel EMS CF bars (Thomson X2 stem), and Specialized Rubino Pro 23c/25c tires made a huge difference in comfort. Might want to reconsider that Thomson seatpost for an alu bike.
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To clarify, the CF seatpost helped with both impact and vibration absorption. The bars helped with vibes mostly. The tires helped with general ride and compliance. But did it turn it into a CF frame? Well.. not really.
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I have a Giant carbon bike that is just super comfy. When I was out of town a few months ago I rented a bike or a 50mile ride. It turned out to be surprisingly comfortable. I had always just assumed that aluminum=harsh. But this one had me believing I could have gotten away with an aluminum bike instead.

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Originally Posted by hmai18
Lower your tire pressure a little bit.
BINGO!

The compliance in the tires is several magnitudes of everything else combined. The solution is so simple that people don't want to believe it.
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Old 10-06-06, 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by michaelmc
BMC Sreetfire. I test-rode it on some cobblestone streets, and it !
I recently bought a Streetfire, and I'd actually wish it was a little stiffer, but I'm about 195lbs! I ended up putting in my stiffest fork to firm up the ride; a Columbus Link,


I agree with the Doc that the difference between old and new and old aluminium is night and day.
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If carbon seatposts don't do anything, why have them? They clearly do dampen vibrations, just like a quality carbon frame dampens vibrations more than a quality aluminum frame. These comparisons don't apply to some other metals - titanium, scandium, etc.
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What about going to a carbon fork?
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^^ yeah, I meant to say that. A bike can be just about transformed with different forks.

I have an alu Cinelli, and the ride was totally different with each of the 3 forks I had in it
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