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Old 10-08-06, 05:19 PM
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road manner

So this is my question,

If you are coming up to a traffic light with cars already lined up. Do you,

1. stay behind the last car in line?
2. sneak your way up and stay next to the first car?

Thanks for the response.
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Old 10-08-06, 05:24 PM
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I stay behind the last car in line. You never know when someone is going decide to turn at the last minute. If all of the cars arte in front of you or behind you, they can't turn into you
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Old 10-08-06, 05:25 PM
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go here:

http://www.ontariocycling.org/web_pa...advocacy_c.php

and read #6
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Old 10-08-06, 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by cheritht
So this is my question,

If you are coming up to a traffic light with cars already lined up. Do you,

1. stay behind the last car in line?
2. sneak your way up and stay next to the first car?

Thanks for the response.
I don't "sneak" anywhere. Why become even more invisible? With that said ...

Here in Decauter, there is a nice big road called the Beltline (Hwy67) that has a nice large shoulder. I ride on the shoulder and when I approach a traffic light I continue to the front of the shoulder. If the shoulder turns into a right turn, I safely get behind the adjacent vehicle but don't "sneak" forward. If there is no shoulder, I do the same, wait my turn behind the vehicle I end up behind.
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About 50/50 depends if I see alot of turn signals, how much space there is between car and curb, etc, and if i feel like catching a quick draft.
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Old 10-08-06, 05:40 PM
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I always ride up to the front of the line. I do the same on my motorcycle, even though lane splittingis illegal in texas. The reasoning behind it is that if someone rear ends the last person in line at least I have alot of steel bewtween me and the offending car. Normally on the bicycle I can out run a normally accelerating car through the intersection too.
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Old 10-08-06, 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Dead Roman
I always ride up to the front of the line. I do the same on my motorcycle, even though lane splittingis illegal in texas. The reasoning behind it is that if someone rear ends the last person in line at least I have alot of steel bewtween me and the offending car. Normally on the bicycle I can out run a normally accelerating car through the intersection too.
Ditto!

Also a lot of the junctions over here in Scotland are being upgraded with a red paint marking kerbside about 1.5 ft wide that takes you up to the front, and about 3 ft clearence infront of the traffic whereever you want in the lanes

I like making my presence known also, too many boy racers out here who wouldnt dream of checking their mirrors for that cyclist they passed a mile ago!
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Old 10-08-06, 06:43 PM
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I can't tell you the rules in other states or countries, but in Ca I believe bicycles get the same rights as motorcycles. Sneaking past the stopped or slowing cars is perfectly legal as long as you're not going more than 15 mph faster than they are (easy enough on a bicycle) but you give up any right to claim a lane when you do so (so if you get hit, it's your fault). With that in mind, I make a judgement call on each case. If it looks safe to sneak past, I do so. If it looks too narrow, or questionable as to whether some of the cars are going to turn or not, etc. I stay in line and wait.
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Old 10-08-06, 06:45 PM
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If I plan on taking the entirety of the lane after the light I stay behind cars, but otherwise I’ll usually ride to the front on the right, I’ll eventually end up there anyways so why wait in line to only give way to cars.
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Originally Posted by dekalbSTEEL
That just tells me to avoid being in the blind spot, but if there is a roll of cars and the light is red, no one will be turning right any time soon. But thanks for pointing that out.

The reason I am asking is because I have seen both being done. And I am wondering if it is first of all legal to squeeze (keeping in mind that I should treat myself like most motorists on the road), and secondly, which is a safer way to go.

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The reasoning behind it is that if someone rear ends the last person in line at least I have alot of steel bewtween me and the offending car.
This really got me thinking as there are a lot of oblivious drivers on the road.
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2. sneak your way up and stay next to the first car?
MOVE my way up next to/in front of the first car.
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