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Pedal Force QS2-S build plans?

Old 10-12-06, 04:20 PM
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Pedal Force QS2-S build plans?

I know you've been thinking it.. "Campy or Shimano.. Sram? American Classic or Mavic.. Bontrager?"

Spec out your bikes 3 months before you'll receive them. It's torture, but unavoidable! I'm trying to hit below 16.75lbs on $1600 : )
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I can't tell you, it's a secret! I wouldn't want a bunch of clones running around all over the country!
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I've got two coming. I can tell you that one will be a strip and rebuild. I will be taking Bittersweet's LeChampion SL and pulling all the parts to put on this frameset. I will leave the FSA bottom bracket and crank and put a new Shimano compact FC-R700 compact crank on it. The other one I simply don't have a clue yet.

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I dunno....haven't really thought that far ahead.
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Originally Posted by WheresWaldo
I've got two coming. I can tell you that one will be a strip and rebuild. I will be taking Bittersweet's LeChampion SL and pulling all the parts to put on this frameset.
Hey, I was going to ask about doing something like that. I want to turn my Le Champion SL into a TT bike so my plan was to buy a full Dura Ace 10 but put the DA 53-39 on the Motobecane and move the compact crank from the Moto to the PF bike because (1) I really love that compact crank and (2) the 50/36 crank isn't quite enough oommpfff for a time trial if the road slopes downward at all.

My question is... What would be involved in moving the FSA SLK compact crank from my Le Champion SL onto my PF bike? Would I also need to move the bottom bracket over to the PF bike? Would it fit? As you can tell, I don't really understand the whole bottom bracket concept. Ideas?

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We need to schedule some kind of race between the Pedal Force buyers and the Flyte buyers.
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Oh yeah, one more question... If I buy the Dura Ace groupset from ProBikeKit.com ($985 right now--is that a good price), it comes with a braze-on derailleur. Can I fit that to the PF frame?

Of course, the full Ultegra group is only $625. I wonder what the total weight difference would be not including crank...

Ah, choices, choices.

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About a pound if I remember right.
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Originally Posted by zimbo
Oh yeah, one more question... If I buy the Dura Ace groupset from ProBikeKit.com ($985 right now--is that a good price), it comes with a braze-on derailleur. Can I fit that to the PF frame?

Of course, the full Ultegra group is only $625. I wonder what the total weight difference would be not including crank...

Ah, choices, choices.

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no, it wouldnt work...you would need the clamp on adapter that probikekit offers with the DA gruppo because the PF qs2-s doesnt support a braze on derailleur (to the best of my knowledge).
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Originally Posted by zimbo
Oh yeah, one more question... If I buy the Dura Ace groupset from ProBikeKit.com ($985 right now--is that a good price), it comes with a braze-on derailleur. Can I fit that to the PF frame?

Of course, the full Ultegra group is only $625. I wonder what the total weight difference would be not including crank...

Ah, choices, choices.

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You will need the adapter also since the frame does not have the fixture for braze-on front derailleurs. Some people like the adapter better than a normal clamp on since you can adjust the derailleur height many times without ever unclamping the braze on adapter.
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Originally Posted by zimbo
Oh yeah, one more question... If I buy the Dura Ace groupset from ProBikeKit.com ($985 right now--is that a good price), it comes with a braze-on derailleur. Can I fit that to the PF frame?

Of course, the full Ultegra group is only $625. I wonder what the total weight difference would be not including crank...

Ah, choices, choices.

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You should have a choice of braze-on or clamp-on and you probably want a clampon.
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Braze-on is the only option at those prices. So the extra adapter would allow me to use the braze-on FD, right?

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Braze-on is the only option at those prices. So the extra adapter would allow me to use the braze-on FD, right?

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Yes!

About the BB. if you are going to move it from one bike to another you will need a ISIS BB tool to get the old bb out of the frame and to install it onto the new frame.

The difference in weight between Ultegra and Dura-Ace is something just over 100g. Really Ultegra is a great bargain, the performance of Dura-Ace, with little or no weight penalty at a good price.
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Originally Posted by WheresWaldo
Really Ultegra is a great bargain, the performance of Dura-Ace, with little or no weight penalty at a good price.
Ok, Ultegra it is. So the last question is... do I buy the groupset now at the $6xx price or wait until the frame is ready. I don't have enough historical price information to know if that's as good a deal as ProBikeKit is trying to make it sound.

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We are going to get a coupon for the component buy is my understanding.

I am assuming we will be getting a discount, perhaps wrongly?

My choice, if I have the cash, is going to be 6600 and whatever the recommended headset is. No wheels, No bars, just the drivetrain and headset.

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excellent.. excellent... mwahahahah
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can you use a D-A cassette with an Ultegra hub? because you can save 100 grams right there alone.
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Originally Posted by zimbo
Oh yeah, one more question... If I buy the Dura Ace groupset from ProBikeKit.com ($985 right now--is that a good price), it comes with a braze-on derailleur. Can I fit that to the PF frame?

Of course, the full Ultegra group is only $625. I wonder what the total weight difference would be not including crank...

Ah, choices, choices.

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can you use a D-A cassette with an Ultegra hub? because you can save 100 grams right there alone.
Yes but at a considerable increase in cost.
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Originally Posted by jwbnyc
We are going to get a coupon for the component buy is my understanding.

I am assuming we will be getting a discount, perhaps wrongly?

My choice, if I have the cash, is going to be 6600 and whatever the recommended headset is. No wheels, No bars, just the drivetrain and headset.
PF prices are pretty good on groupsets, I really doubt there will be any additional discounting. More likely the coupon will allow you to buy the build kit without having to select a frame from their available framesets. Just a guess on my part.
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Heh, I was playing around with the custom config tool on the PF website earlier tonight and got it down to 14.67lbs at only $2292 total

OK, back to reality.....
FSA Carbon Compact crankset
FSA Platinum Pro Ti bottom bracket
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I have most of it now on my current bike or in boxes except the SRAM stuff and the saddle/seatpost. Can't wait.
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Heh, I was playing around with the custom config tool on the PF website earlier tonight and got it down to 14.67lbs at only $2292 total
I wouldn't believe the Pedal Force website. I built a very comparably specced Merlin Magia (frame slightly lighter) and it was reported low 15 pounds by Pedal Force, and is high 16 pounds on my scale.

Also, according to competitivecyclist.com, the Dura-Ace gruppo is nearly a pound lighter than Ultegra.
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Originally Posted by zimbo
Braze-on is the only option at those prices. So the extra adapter would allow me to use the braze-on FD, right?

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It would seem to me that Centaur at 60 grams more than Dura-Ace for $200 less is the really sweet spot.
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