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Old 10-15-06, 01:22 AM
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Found this listing on craigslist near me....still kinda new to bikes, is this a sweet deal or no?

And the 30.5" standover...what's that translate to? I need 54-56cm...

https://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/bik/220245963.html
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Wife's 84 Bianchi traditional geo is 30 standover and it is a 51 cm frame. But frames can be measure differently. Bianchi might use center to top and another/maker company center to center.

Older Specialized I'm thinking it is traditional frame. Standover can be affected by sloping top tube. SO really, one would need to know if it was traditional or sloping.
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The seller doesn't reveal how old the bike is. That would not only help in evaluating its worth but also in determining its geometry.
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I've sent him an email...he is fairly local, and I'll ask to come check it out...
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Assuming it fits though, and it's a geometry I'm happy with...it's a pretty good deal on a good bike, yeah?
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Originally Posted by Zemo
Assuming it fits though, and it's a geometry I'm happy with...it's a pretty good deal on a good bike, yeah?
Again, it would help to know the age and condition of the bike and components. A steel Allez seems to indicate that it's probably an early to mid 1990's bike. Assuming a mid-level Allez frame built up from components from that era is probably worth about $100 to $150 today. However, it also seems as if it's had a few upgrades over its life. The question then becomes how old the components and upgrades are.
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Sounds like a rather old frame that was spread to accomodate newer components and a hodge podge of parts (he can't even spell campagnolo). I wouldn't pay $350 for it. MAYBE half that, MAYBE.
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Originally Posted by urbanknight
Sounds like a rather old frame that was spread to accomodate newer components
I'm not even certain the frame was spread as we don't know what level of components are actually on the bike. It could be a 7-speed/8-speed drivetrain for all we know.
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Originally Posted by urbanknight
Sounds like a rather old frame that was spread to accomodate newer components
Where do you get that? Specialized made a very nice lugged steel frame around '93/94 and the red one came with 8sp 105 STI. I actually have one of these as my winter training/fender bike.

Sounds a little on the high side unless it's in really good shape. Tough to say without at least a pic, and an inperson inspection to see how the drivetrain looks. Often times these bikes look like a good deal until you add a couple of chainrings, chain, cassette, cables, housing, brake pads, etc. If you have a friend that knows bikes, buy him a 6 pack and have him take a look at it.

Also, and this is a little thing, but anyway. Campy brakes with STI shifters are a pain in the ass to get the wheels out of. Shimano brakes have the little release cam on the calipers, and Campy uses a little pin on the shifters. So with this set up there is no way to release the brakes wide enough to get wheel out without some muscle work, and that can often move your pads.
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Originally Posted by schooner
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Also, and this is a little thing, but anyway. Campy brakes with STI shifters are a pain in the ass to get the wheels out of. Shimano brakes have the little release cam on the calipers, and Campy uses a little pin on the shifters. So with this set up there is no way to release the brakes wide enough to get wheel out without some muscle work, and that can often move your pads.
I've never had a problem with mine (700x23 tyres) - perhaps you're thinking wide tyres…

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Best thing to do is go and check it out to see what it's worth. Good luck! Either way, keep a look out for the local Portland group rides.
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