For the environmentally conscious, neither Ti nor carbon can be recycled.

because its prettier


oh, and im not being facetious either.

I'm addicted.

I have three steel bikes built in Italy with the Torelli name on them. One was built by hand the old fasioned way with pins by Antonio Mondonico. Another was built by Guerciotti, and the third was built in a small shop in San Marino by a shop with four employees.

Aside from maybe a Sachs, or a vanilla there isn't a bike I would rather have. I always want more toys...but if I never get another frame, I'll be perfectly content.

yeah, same here. I'm not anti-carbon, but the good ones are just too much, and it's pretty much impossible to justify the cost.

is that yours? its gorgeous. thats my favorite bike....
next to mine :D

http://www.thuan.org/images/derosa/badge.jpg

I took the liberty of reordering them.

my reason why....

although I did just buy an aluminum EV2 frame from the same year for my winter project...

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j3...PA270013-2.jpg

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j3...s/PB110010.jpg

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j3...i/P7260032.jpg

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j3...i/P7260035.jpg

A selfless act :beer:


No, no, I insist, you first! http://www.htguide.com/forum/images/...con_thanku.gif

what's the latest on the boron Bianchis?
They've only been around for a few years (right?), so how have they withstood
the punishment?

If I had a Primato it would be my favorite too. But yeah, thats my Mxl, and the paint scheme is one of the few that I really like.

love your Deda & Record combo. and I may have to get your saddle, too. SLR hurts me bum.


if I may comment, i think the bar/brake combo on the pinarello look more comfy than on the colnago? otherwise - hot, especally the wheels

Let me put it this way:

why are cars not made of aluminum ?
what is titanium or carbon not used to make a car?

Maybe because the handling required of cars, strength, and durability only
comes in one flavor: steel!

Not to mention......affordability! It does it all!

When you add the anti-rust treatments and paint provided to steel
in the past 10 years, rust is a thing of the past.

So, it makes sense to have steel on a bike too, unless we're talking COMPETITION
and PROFESSIONAL use.

Lots of good reasons to still ride steel bikes,

http://www.imagebucket.net/bucket/9694/IMG_6981.jpg
http://www.imagebucket.net/bucket/9695/IMG_7375.jpg
http://www.imagebucket.net/bucket/9696/100_1263.jpg
http://www.imagebucket.net/bucket/9697/IMG_6198.jpg

and even one more,
http://www.imagebucket.net/bucket/9698/6783100_1543.JPG

All very good reasons.

because even when it's old and dirty it still looks fast (and if your legs good enough, it still rides fast too).

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...to/pinny01.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...to/pinny05.jpg

mine is from 2001...as far as I know the first year it was offered...It's a damn good frame...I love it

I am yearning for my downtube shifters. Non-indexed of course.

Sorry but I'm going to have to disagree.

I've broken just as many steel frames as aluminum frames...2 each. I also have bent 2 steel frames but that wasn't the bike's fault. (One was bent by a car...turned left in front of me...and the other was dropped in a hole at about 20 mph :( )

Unless the frame is very special, repairs to the frame are just not economical, independent of the material. All but one of my broken frames have been replaced under warranty.

I really have to disagree with this. My broken aluminum frames have creaked terribly prior to breaking. Other aluminum parts also give warning that they are going to fail. Sometimes we don't pay attention but the warning signs are there. One of my steel frames did break without warning. I was riding heard a 'Ping!' and the dropout was broken. The axle was broken also which may have caused the failure of the dropout. But this mountain bike was a problem child from the beginning...broke the fork at the steer tube/crown junction, the frame cracked at the dropout (company wouldn't replace it) and it was repaired by a machinist at work and, finally, the chainstay broke at the bridge, was repaired and broke again.

Or grouchy factor :D

So what you're saying is that you're a finesse rider then?

I have a Dean frame that is designed the same way. It has Zona in a triangular shape in the downtube and 853 for the remainder of the round tubes. It is an excellent riding steel bike that is plenty rigid for my clydesdale frame.

What a shame Wilier isn't making these for us mere mortals. Only Aluminum and carbon on their website.

There appears to be some weird misconception that the reason one buys a steel bike is that it's cheap. Yes, there are cheap steel bikes just as there are cheap Aluminum bikes but I would never recommend buying one of those. High end steel is very light weight and very reliable and forgiving plus can be very expensive. It's a comfortable ride, the material being very flexible. Good custom steel bike frames can cost anywhere from $1500 - $3500 and more depending on the builder. Check out such builders as landshark (landshark.com) and Jim Kish for an idea what good custom steel can look like.

I for one will always ride steel. Maybe just because I am stubborn and alittle "old school" but it's a material that works for me. I dislike Aluminum and really don't get the deal with Carbon Fibre, if I had to pay alot of money I would get Ti. Someone described Ti as being almost like steel. That says it all!

If you have to ask why steel, get carbon.

Steel is great for the annoyance factor. The carbon crowd in particular gets real uppity, and it annoys them to be seen with steel.

Steel is for reverse snobs, like me. I drive to my yacht in a 1992 pickup.

this is why :beer:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/35685161@N00/?saved=1


http://curtgoodrich.com/gallery.html

Another reason.

No picking on my paint job. I've been riding the poop out of this bike for 6 years, and I plan to throw another 4 at it. 2001 Ritchey Road Logic. Oh, and my rear tire went flat on the way home from work tonight :(

This seat clamp is the nicest implementation I've ever seen, and the rear dropouts are special (remember, paint peels off if you go really really fast...):

http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/9167/cimg4264xq5.jpg

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/4796/cimg4265af7.jpg

http://img93.imageshack.us/img93/9499/cimg4261wa5.jpg