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Old 11-05-06, 12:52 AM
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Newbie Here... Need help with purchase

Been looking at entry level bikes... I really like the Trek, Felt, and Giant... all 3 are virtually the same price with the Giant actually about $35 cheaper than the other 2... all feel good to me... so any opinion on which one I should choose?
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if they all feel good, get the one that looks the sweetest to you. if they all look sweet and ride sweet to you, get the cheapest one and use the money saved for other bike-related purchases.

also, getting a bike is one of the best decisions you'll make

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Which bike shop has the best reputation for customer service and bike fitting? In my experience, Trek tends to select better local dealers than Giant or Felt, but that may be different in your area.
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Are the hybrid bikes at $300 too uncomfortable to ride as starter bikes? That is what some folks have advised me to get first...
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Originally Posted by Crue4
Are the hybrid bikes at $300 too uncomfortable to ride as starter bikes? That is what some folks have advised me to get first...
If you feel that this is something you will definintely get into, why bother? You will only end up buying a road bike anyway. Buying a roadie right away will save you money in the long run.
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If you feel that this is something you will definintely get into, why bother? You will only end up buying a road bike anyway. Buying a roadie right away will save you money in the long run.
+1 ........I cant count the number of people I know who purchased a hybrid just to turn around and get a road bike a few weeks later after discovering the hybrid makes a terrible roadbike. For paths and around town they are fine but don't plan to become a roadie on one.
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That is exactly what I thought...
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Originally Posted by Crue4
Are the hybrid bikes at $300 too uncomfortable to ride as starter bikes? That is what some folks have advised me to get first...
That's kind of stupid advise. Are these people cyclist or office know it all's. I worked with a guy a few years ago who was an expert on everything, although he had experience in almost nothing.
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and as far as which brand.....They are all the same. Which bike gives your johnson a rise? Which bike looks right and feels right and makes you WANT to ride it? Dealer support? ...As long as you stay with a mainstream brand (Trek, Giant, Specialized, Felt, etc....)that your local bike shop supports, you will be fine.
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all other things being roughly equal, what about the drive train and the wheelset? if the frames are the right size and the ride feels good on all three, let those two major considerations help you make the call...
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The hybrid bicycle emerged as a compromise (supposedly) for customers wanting to ride both road and mountain. Unfortunately they don't do either very well.
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Originally Posted by v1k1ng1001
The hybrid bicycle emerged as a compromise (supposedly) for customers wanting to ride both road and mountain. Unfortunately they don't do either very well.
Hybrids aren't great for road racing or hard core mountain biking, but I think they do a very good job at casual road riding (up to 15mph for several hours) or casual dirt riding (hard packed dirt roads). Of course, there is a wide range of price/quality levels. A $300 hybrid is not going to be anywhere near as nice as a $2000 hybrid.

There are a couple of people who use high end hybrids on my club's rides and they seem to do fine on rides of up to 60 miles. These are older folks with back problems who wouldn't be able to use the drops on a road bike anyway.
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Bought a Trek 7100 hybrid 2 months ago for fitness purposes thinking that comfort/price was the most important things to consider. Went riding with a small group that had road bikes and the difference, especially against the wind or going downhill was tremendous. Without pedaling, they were somewhere in the 40mph range going downhill while was around 25. Bought a road bike this week. Save your money and get the road bike.
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Hybrids are great so long as you don't have any pretentions of racing grandeur. Of course, hybrid can mean anything. European style trekking bikes (German coinage believe it or not) are near perfect city and commuting bikes. Mine has been up the Col de Furfande (a gravel track that starts near the Izoard), toured England, cruised around Austria and Virginia and taken me to work virtually every day in 4 years. I even came in 18th/30 in a beginner criterium, with mudguards, rack and street shoes. Just don't expect to be able to go too fast with one; road racing bikes will always be faster, but they are generally less comfy.
If you mean a clunky mtb with a sit up and beg position, then the barb sticks. Flat bar racing bikes are quite popular too.
p.s. I have a road racing bike too now, but I would not swap my trekking bike for anything other than a touring bike
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Took some test rides today... here is what I found.. and the prices of each

Raleigh Grand Sport... pretty sweet and Tiagra and nifty italian tires, pretty cool paint scheme.. $600 out the door... but it just was a little uncomfortable as it was a size too big. If this had the extra break levers and was my size... I probably would rate this at the top... but it is not and the special is on this bike alone.

Giant OCR3- $650 out the door. pretty nice but shifted like crap ( had sora) but I am guessing that it simply was not adjusted properly.

Felt 90- $680 + tax= Very nice.. too me the best of the entry level price bike that I have ridden.. best combo of components for the price as well.. but no wiggle room on cutting a deal from the dealer.

Trek 1000-- $680 + tax = shifted much better than the Giant... rode as good as the Felt... but the tire/wheel combo is not as nice as the felt... plus the extra break levers on the Felt are something I do like..

So right now the Felt is way out in front.. but at the price given... no price break or discount even though it is a 2006 model... So what do I do? Hold out for a better price after the first of the year, look toward the Bay (and hope I get a good one)... or go ahead and plunk down the money? Or do I keep shopping maybe looking in another town a few hours away like Atlanta?

Help please..
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Buy the one that fits you the best. The price differences you are talking about are insignificant.
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Originally Posted by Crue4
Took some test rides today... here is what I found.. and the prices of each

Raleigh Grand Sport... pretty sweet and Tiagra and nifty italian tires, pretty cool paint scheme.. $600 out the door... but it just was a little uncomfortable as it was a size too big. If this had the extra break levers and was my size... I probably would rate this at the top... but it is not and the special is on this bike alone.

Giant OCR3- $650 out the door. pretty nice but shifted like crap ( had sora) but I am guessing that it simply was not adjusted properly.

Felt 90- $680 + tax= Very nice.. too me the best of the entry level price bike that I have ridden.. best combo of components for the price as well.. but no wiggle room on cutting a deal from the dealer.

Trek 1000-- $680 + tax = shifted much better than the Giant... rode as good as the Felt... but the tire/wheel combo is not as nice as the felt... plus the extra break levers on the Felt are something I do like..

So right now the Felt is way out in front.. but at the price given... no price break or discount even though it is a 2006 model... So what do I do? Hold out for a better price after the first of the year, look toward the Bay (and hope I get a good one)... or go ahead and plunk down the money? Or do I keep shopping maybe looking in another town a few hours away like Atlanta?

Help please..
Some may flame me for this comment but here goes.

I went from a very cheap K-mart Huffy Dual Suspension MTB (which never saw off-road use, I was naive and young when I bought it) to a Full out Fuji Roadie (I tend to dive into things head-first), but I didn't have $1000 to spend on a new bike. After weighing my options I opted for a 06 Fuji Newest 4.0. ($389 out the door)They come with super low-end components (Shimano 2200) and down tube shifters. BUT it has the same frame material (and only a slightly different geometry) as a the Fuji Roubaix, a much more expensive bike. So what I did is buy some lightly used Shimano 105 STI Shifters and a 9-speed Ultegra Cassette for $100 shipped, as well as a set of Ultegra 6500 Front and rear dérailleurs, a Bontrager Select Seat Post, and Ultegra 6500 Brake calipers for an additional $90. With a bit of time for installation (I did it myself) I had a bike with much higher level components for a fraction of what I would pay for a bike initially equipped with such components. Grand Total: ~$600 There are some components like the cranks and front chain rings that are still TruVativ parts, but to me they work just fine for the time being.

Just my .02

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Originally Posted by Crue4
Raleigh Grand Sport.
Giant OCR3
Felt 90
Trek 1000
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If you get a chance, you might try a Lemond Reno. My LBS currently has a 2006 triple marked down from 900USD to 700USD. This would include a carbon fork and carbon seat tube. This is the same mfr as Trek, so much of the componentry is the same selection.

I wouldn't try to talk you out of any of the ones you've tried (or a Fuji either!), as long as you enjoy riding it.
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If I'm not missing something Felt doesn't even have the F90 this year (07) and their lowest price model is over 1000 now. Maybe that's why they won't budge on the 06. I wonder if there's another Felt dealer not too far from you who might budge on the price a bit. On the other hand you're probably not going to notice the 50 bucks or so all that much so maybe it's better to see if you can get a discount on a computer or other accessories along with the bike purchase.
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Yep I noticed that about the 2007 line from Felt (all over $1k)... that is why I am a little afraid to let this one go by.. but to be honest... I am still a newbie.. and only have ridden the 4 I mentioned... although the Felt is far and away my favorite of the 4.
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it depends a lot on who you'll be riding with

if you're riding off road, buy a moutain bike

if you're riding with roadies, buy a road bike
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I'm interested in purchasing a road bike but need some pointers.

Would purchasing from eBay be a smart/bad move?
Should I purchase one from a local shop so that I can actually test it out?
Any road bike recommendations for a beginner?

Sorry, didn't mean to hijack your thread. I didn't want to start a whole new thread and make everyone angry. I'm searching though!
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I would buy your first one from your LBS so that the shop can help you figure out fit etc.

Ride a few bikes and get back to us with your own thread.
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My buddy purchased a Trek 1000 and for $25 they added the extra brake levers. He likes his Trek although he had settled on a Giant OCR3 until he found out he was going to have to wait several days to get one built up. The Trek will be slightly more performance oriented and the Giant may give a slightly more comfortable ride. Not too terribly much difference, though. Both good bikes. He has ridden his 1,500 miles this summer with no problems.
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Your buying process, should go along these lines:

- are you going to be biking to work with books, materials in your backpack ? It so,
only a hybrid can do a the job, of carrying the load, with robust wheels yet fast
enough to get you from A to B, unlike a MTB which is ONLY SUITABLE for
dirt trails and such. MTB tires are poor for city conditions, really slow in traveling,
and tiresome from a muscular and energy point of view. Inefficient.

- are you rich or middle class? If you are like most people, working people,
then budget $600 is plenty.

- if your goal is pleasure, speed, going on bicycle paths, cardiac and muscular
workouts, then only a road bike for $600 or more, can long-term satisfy you. But
even low end road bikes for $200 are great, if you're relatively young, such as under
25 years of age.

- the most important is fit......and only by researching and having a GOOD BRAND
and GOOD LBS can you find your proper bike size, such as 56 cm, 58 cm, 61 cm

- the most price bang for the buck bikes I've seen, are those with quality Shimano
components, but manufactured in China or Taiwan, imported. Examples are GIANT,
FUJI, KONA, for example. Others, prefering more USA brands, may go for Cannondale,
Trek, or similar.
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