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Xero Lite XR1 wheelset Opinion Please!

Old 12-13-06, 06:36 PM
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Xero Lite XR1 wheelset Opinion Please!

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So for Christmas, I plan to get myself a new set of training wheels. The XR1s weigh about 1520 grams (confirmed to be less on Weight Weenies) and got high ratings on both RBR and UKRBR. The best part is that it's retailed for 200 bucks. Now, can I get some opinions on these from those who had them for a while as training wheels? Also, a pic of how these look on the bike would be great too. I can't find any actuals pics.
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I've got a set and I love them.
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Here are some pics:


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I had them and sold them to The Beef on here.....I liked them...I think he likes them too....great wheelset for the money...
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[QUOTE=bdcheung]Here are some pics:


Thanks for the photos,

How do you like the acceleration with these? Can you detect any difference with the aero profile? How's the maintenance history with these in the time you had them (your weight would be nice)? Any comments on sprinting or climbing hills?

I have Pro Race tires on all my bikes. The yellow Prorace tires look awesome on these wheels.
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This is my second set. I have put thousands of miles on these wheels and they have never given me any problems nor have I had to true them at all. My only complaint is that the hubs are not that great. These are great training wheels.

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Originally Posted by EdZ
This is my second set. I have put thousands of miles on these wheels and they have never given me any problems nor have I had to true them at all. My only complaint is that the hubs are not that great. These are great training wheels.

What exactly about the hubs that make them not so great? Thanks.
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I want those but haven't really heard any real reviews by anyone on here. Does anyone know if I can put Mavic bearings into the Formula hubs on the Xero's?
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Originally Posted by samsation7
What exactly about the hubs that make them not so great? Thanks.
Well, on the first set I had, the bearings got pretty rough after a few thousand miles. On my current set, they seem to be ok. The front hub is nice and smooth, but the rear hub is a tad tight. My father has a set of Shimano R-550 wheels, which are actually cheaper than these, and they spin noticeably longer than my Xero's. Like I said, they are a good training wheelset, but I wouldnt race with them unless I changed out the bearings for something better, but I have a set of Rolfs for that. Their strengths are that they are bombproof, which is all thats really required of a training wheelset.
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I've got a used pair to sell if anyone is interested, just pm me.

I used them for about 8 or 9 months with no problems.
Finally scratched the itch for some handbuilts with DA hubs and DT R1.1 rims, so the XR-1s are just gathering dust.
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Originally Posted by CrimsonKarter21
I want those but haven't really heard any real reviews by anyone on here. Does anyone know if I can put Mavic bearings into the Formula hubs on the Xero's?
Its not the brand, but the size that matters. Email Xero and they will give you the size of the bearings and then find an online retailer that sells bearings.
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I stand by my review in RBR.
I will eventually be passing these off to my wife's bike when I get money to buy new wheels. If you weigh under 160 lbs (my estimation), then these should be pretty good. Between 155 and 190lbs, I think they are OK for general use but watch out as they may cause shuddering with your particular fork, and you will get all that lateral flex. I know guys over 200 lbs use them, but I wouldn't.
These weights are simply estimated from my experience, and of course there are many people who will say otherwise. But since these wheels easily move laterally causing them to run into the derailleur cage, and not even at full pedally load, plus the fork shuddering, I think that pretty much says it all.
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I have xero xsr-3's which i believe use the same hubs, at least they look identical. My wheels have been super strong (my weight 150 lbs) and true over 2500 miles. Hubs are quiet and stealthy.

I plan on getting some xr-1 ones for christmas to go on my QS2-s.

I have also read in an article that xr-1's are favored by racers in countries (such as brazil) where budgets are low.
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Originally Posted by samsation7
Thanks for the photos,

How do you like the acceleration with these? Can you detect any difference with the aero profile? How's the maintenance history with these in the time you had them (your weight would be nice)? Any comments on sprinting or climbing hills?

I have Pro Race tires on all my bikes. The yellow Prorace tires look awesome on these wheels.
1) The acceleration is nice. I haven't gotten any super long rides in, but I'm doing a century on Saturday with lots of hills (DC - Poolesville for those of you from the area) and I'll report back after that.
2) It's tough to determine whether my increased speed (1-2mph over a 20mile loop) is because of the wheels or other factors, but they certainly provide a psychological benefit. I feel faster, so I ride harder.
3) Maintenance? none so far after a couple hundred miles. Others have reported spoke pingning as they settle into place but I've experienced nonesuch noise. Out of the box they were true to 1mm laterally, and I'm fine with that. I'll eventually true them to 0.5mm laterally, but for now they perform excellent.y
4) I am 5'10", 150lbs.
5) See above for comments. See below (come Saturday night) for a full review after my century.
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Originally Posted by aballas
I had them and sold them to The Beef on here.....I liked them...I think he likes them too....great wheelset for the money...
You got that right!

Excellent wheelset. They spin up like a bat flying outta hell compared to my old 32-spoke tricross wheels. I love em.
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Originally Posted by EdZ
This is my second set. I have put thousands of miles on these wheels and they have never given me any problems nor have I had to true them at all. My only complaint is that the hubs are not that great. These are great training wheels.

I have had no trouble with the hubs as of yet. If you want a smoother roll, it costs very little to remove the bearings, and go to the local bearing shop, and buy some ceramic bearings whoelsale for a lot less than what you pay at the LBS.
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Originally Posted by Patriot
I have had no trouble with the hubs as of yet. If you want a smoother roll, it costs very little to remove the bearings, and go to the local bearing shop, and buy some ceramic bearings whoelsale for a lot less than what you pay at the LBS.
No kidding. But like I said, these are just my training wheels, so its not a big deal for me.
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I'm about 190 and have none of the problems mentioned above. I like mine alot. One of the lightest budget wheelsets you can find with a Campy freehub.



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I was thinking about geting a set of Mike Garcia's SpeedCific Niobium 30 http://oddsandendos.safeshopper.com/2/128.htm?192.
How does the quality of these two wheelsets compare? Other than the Xero's are half the $$!
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Originally Posted by Patriot
I have had no trouble with the hubs as of yet. If you want a smoother roll, it costs very little to remove the bearings, and go to the local bearing shop, and buy some ceramic bearings whoelsale for a lot less than what you pay at the LBS.
so I assume the hub design its quite easy to uninstall and replace bearings on the XR1's? I've used mostly mavic and shimano wheels.
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[QUOTE=dekalbSTEEL]I'm about 190 and have none of the problems mentioned above. I like mine alot. One of the lightest budget wheelsets you can find with a Campy freehub.



Wow. The allure of campy is strong! I may have to convert one of these days. I've been holding for more than 2 years.

That's a sexy looking machine! 10/10 for sex appeal
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def a good wheelset for the mulah
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Don't worry about the bearings: I'm sure they are standard cartridge bearings of reasonable quality. The 'spin test' is meaningless and tells you more about the seals than anything else. When the bearings wear out you can probably get replacements at an industrial bearing house.
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Light, strong wheels great for training with marginal hubs at a super price point... what more do you need?
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Originally Posted by PedalMasher
Light, strong wheels great for training with marginal hubs at a super price point... what more do you need?
Well I don't need my rear derailleur ripped off the frame and trashed wheels.

If I wanted to, I could flex these wheels so far they would smash into the derailleur cage and cause massive damage. Go find a steep hill and attack it in the big ring and largest rear cog you have. You should be standing and using lots of arm strength to pull the bars into each stroke. You'll find out what I'm talking about when you start hearing the pinging of the spokes hitting the derailleur. It doesn't take much power to at least start the pinging.

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