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Several n00b questions

Old 01-04-07, 07:38 PM
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Several n00b questions

Ok, I have been around this site for a while and have had a road bike for about 6 weeks. I have been on 4 group ride (approx 30 miles each) plus a few solo rides. My background is running and swimming.

Anyhow - it does not look like BF has a new riders forum, so I will post this here.

#1 As some of you might have noticed in my shill bike thread, I like some color and graphics on my bike. I have posted this pic here and over at RBR. I have to say that it seems like bikers really do not like colors or graphics or stickers on bikes. They seem to prefer more understated looks. Fair enough. What I do not get is the disconnect between this and the bike jerseys. Those have more color and ads than any race car.

#2 I picked up some shorts today - the whole Chamois thing. Do I wear these directly next to my body (as in nothing under them)? And what of this Chamois Butter stuff I bought today. Any advice is helpful

I am sure I have more, but these two are on my mind right now.
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no undies, chamois next to skin, i prefer to rub the butter on my crotch directly vs the chamois, but then again im usually a few minutes late for the start as well. hmmm.....
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1. I don't mind stickers on my bike, but bikes like Cannondales where the name is plastered on every friggin' tube gets a bit annoying.

2. Yes, you don't wear underwear with your shorts. I'm assuming you bought a fairly inexpensive pair of shorts at the local bike shop when you got your bike? If so, lube up on that chamois cream and hope for the best. Then, save up for a couple pairs of Assos bibs, if cycling is something you plan on sticking with. You'll thank me later.
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um... go hoosiers.

that's all i have to say.
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You don't need azz cream for a 30 mile ride ...
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Since you saved $7650 off retail on that bike you can afford a whole Assos wardrobe.

No undies, buy a pair of comfy bibs, try some Chamois Butt'r but you may not necessarily need it.
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1. I don't get the jersey selection either, which is why I go as plain as possible... all black with a hint of white here and there, or none if I can help it (other than the helmet.. I wear white).

Team jerseys are a totally different story since there's sponsors using you as a billboard.

2. what everyone else said
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Originally Posted by Markedoc
You don't need azz cream for a 30 mile ride ...
If you get the $24 pair of shorts with the abrasive cotton chamois, you do
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Originally Posted by GuitarWizard
If you get the $24 pair of shorts with the abrasive cotton chamois, you do
Do shorts like that really exist?
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A few responses. #1 I got the butter as a 'might as well get it' type thing. I use body glide a lot when I run, so I figured this might be something similar. my crotch is fairly susceptible to chafing.
#2 I do not plan on sticking to 30 miles . . . I expect that to grow somewhat fast.
#3 I bought some fairly low end cannondale shorts on sale. Right now I need something (which is better than nothing). I have a full bike fitting tomorrow and I wanted to come in with at least something close to real bike shorts. I am sure I will upgrade to quality gear soon . . . I am super strapped for cash right now . . . might have something to do with this new hobby of biking. Luckily I have a ton of decent running gear that is at least getting me by (technical pants, shirts, jackets, gloves, etc). It took me a while to get all of that and I will follow the same pattern where I can, like getting stuff at the end of seasons at a discount.
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Stickers are racer-chique. No stickers are fred-chique.
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One thing I have picked up as a noob/post-noob is that we are CYCLISTS. Bikers ride Harleys, have tattoos and have nicknames like 'Skull'. They're pretty cool, too...
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Originally Posted by indygreg
A few responses. #1 I got the butter as a 'might as well get it' type thing. I use body glide a lot when I run, so I figured this might be something similar. my crotch is fairly susceptible to chafing.
#2 I do not plan on sticking to 30 miles . . . I expect that to grow somewhat fast.
If you're susceptible to chafing then don't mess around. Saddle sores are a *****, and it's easier to prevent them than to get rid of them.

Check this out:

MAIN-TAINT-ANCE
as seen on https://www.davezabriskie.com (Which I can't find now, BTW.)

An often overlooked part of being a healthy and fast cyclist is the taint. The taint is the part of your body that contacts your saddle. I believe the name was derived from the taint not being the parts that are well know by name: as in it taint that and it sure taint those! If you can’t comfortably sit on the saddle you taint gonna be able to ride your bike very far. This can negativly effect training and racing, so one must keep this area well main-taint-ed. There are three simple concepts to accept and follow: Cleanliness, Lubrication and Dryness. Trust me all of this was learned by experience! Here are the steps to follow:

1. Begin with a clean taint and chamois (if you are a hairy beast like me you may want to shave the area—USE CAUTION!)
1. Generously apply chamois cream
2. Ride, Train, Do what you do
3. Dismount bike (Follow the next steps immediately and without fail)

i. Remove chamois

ii. Shower

iii. Use a truly antibacterial soap like Hibiclens

4. Exit Shower

i. Dry taint with towel

ii. Dry taint with air

1. Either remain naked while making your after ride meal or use hair dryer

2. Antique yourself ala Jackass with a handful of Baby Powder

Why do we do this?

The chamois cream, helps reduce chafing that occurs while riding. There are a number of products out there and here are a few that I know work well:

Noxema

Butt Butter

Bag Balm

Assos Chamois cream

Sixtufit

Try them to determine what works best for you. Often when things are getting a bit raw I mix a few to exploit the full potential of each. Do yourself and your training partners a favor by not using too much. I have been known to have a little seep out of my shorts and it never fails to gain the attention of those behind me. Make sure your chamois is in good shape. Don’t use one that is old and worn out. After the ride get out of your shorts ASAP, you don’t wanna start growing mushrooms down there. Get into the shower and wash up, if you are having “problems” use Hibiclens, it is a surgical scrub and very powerful. I take it to races because each hotel has different soaps and who knows which could cause an irritation. After the shower make sure the area is dry either walk around naked for a while and let it air out or use a hairdryer. The final dose of goodness comes from a little shot of baby powder to the taint. By following these steps you should be main-taint-ing fairly well. If you are experiencing some saddle sores sometimes the only way to get rid of them is to stop riding for a couple of days. If it’s really bad you might have to see a doctor. I am sort of an expert so if you want you can send pictures and I’ll give you my opinion on the best way to proceed. PLEASE DON'T!

Oh yeah one more thing I think that can help is to shave all of that “bum fluff” down. It can be tricky, use electric clippers and be careful, I recommend a mirror.

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the zman is my favorite comedian cyclist. i've heard some funny things about him from someone who has first hand knowledge.
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Never did any stickers and I don't use butter cause I have never needed it.

I did do the shave thing [B]VERY CAREFULLY.[B]
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Holy Mother!

Does Bikesdirect.com ship their bikes with their website plastered on the frame?
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Spend the $$ on the britches. For us over phorty and pheeling phat we wear bibs. More comfortable for our enormous stomachs...

For me, I won't wear jerseys of teams, I'm not on them, and those teams worked really hard to earn them. Plain, obnoxious colors for me. When they make "The Tick" jerseys I will wear dat (when I wear all blue kit's I look like him ;-)

Lose the stickers.
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I have nothing to add. I just like saying, "chamois butter".
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Originally Posted by ryanrasband
it takes awhile to break your ass in...
Just remember to get your feet set.
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Hi Greg!
Hope to see you down here sometime when you get bored with the flat roads around Indy.
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bloomington FTW!

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Any of you guys doing RAIN this year?
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hilly hundred > rain
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Originally Posted by grahny
1. I don't get the jersey selection either, which is why I go as plain as possible... all black with a hint of white here and there, or none if I can help it (other than the helmet.. I wear white).
I bet you are really visible to the cars behind you.
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Thanks for more info. Oddly enough I follow those directions almost to a T - as far as shower, dry with hair drier and then use baby powder (I use gold bond actually). I learned all this by trial and error over the years with running . . . I would have like to have seen this 2 or 3 years ago.

At this point I think the Hilly or RAIN is out of my reach in 2007 . . I am a 3 sport guy and want to focus on Tri's. I am not sure I can get in enough miles to get ready for those and the other stuff I am going to be doing (which includes several half marathons that I will always do).
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