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Keo cleat vs delta?

Old 01-04-07, 10:22 PM
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Keo cleat vs delta?

Yes I did a search on this subject, but found no definitive answer.

I bought cleat replacements to my Keo Sprint pedals and were sold the Delta Red Arc cleats ( http://www.performancebike.com/shop/...gory_ID=10047). Just tested them and they don't seem to clip in. Telling from other threads from my search these are not compatible with my pedals and I need Keo specific cleats and not Delta's right?

It was suggested to me that these cleats would wear better than my original grey Keo cleats. Just checking the facts before I head back to the store to exchange them.

Thanks!
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Old 01-04-07, 10:24 PM
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Delta != Keo.

You need Keo cleats. And the cleat colors refer to float, not durability.
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Old 01-04-07, 10:40 PM
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i have delta for my 5.1's. keo is for keo
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Yea.. they don't interchange.

I suggest some cleat covers if you don't have any. The KEO cleats wear pretty quick but they're not terribly expensive which is a plus. I managed to get about 5 months out of a set using cleat covers religiously. For what they cost, I think it's a fair trade off.
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Keo and Delta are two different animals. I would suggest you return them to Performance and help to educate the person who sold them to you.
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Originally Posted by xrazer
It was suggested to me that these cleats would wear better than my original grey Keo cleats. Just checking the facts before I head back to the store to exchange them.
Buy referencing "store", it sounds like you bought them at a Performance retail store. Go back and dope slap that salesperson and tell them never to work in the bike industry again. A shop employee (not you) who didn't know that difference is like not knowing what a wheel is.

As for "wear", I think maybe the salesperson was referencing the teflon edges. Keo being a fairly new system has always had the teflon cleat edges (perhaps some very first production runs didn't), but the Delta cleat got the same teflon edge treatment recently. It was really more for a squeek issue some people had than anything else. The part that contacts the ground is the same plastic they've always used. I used to take my Delta cleats down to a paper thin edge in the front, and then replaced them when a few chips from that thin edge occurred.

oh, and:
black = no float
gray = 4 degrees float
red = 9 degrees float

Edit: One more thing to add. While I generally like Performance, they need punishing for that blunder by not getting the sale after your return. You have two REI stores in the San Diego area. If you are a member there, then its like getting around %10 off with the yearly dividend, and they carry the Keo cleats (at least my local REI stores do).

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Old 01-05-07, 09:41 AM
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+1 on the cleat covers...I'm going on my original set of Keo cleats, 6500km's of riding, plus winter trainer time....
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Originally Posted by stevecaz
One more thing to add. While I generally like Performance, they need punishing for that blunder by not getting the sale after your return. You have two REI stores in the San Diego area. If you are a member there, then its like getting around %10 off with the yearly dividend, and they carry the Keo cleats (at least my local REI stores do).
First, thanks all for the input.

While I was in the store (Performance of which we have several here in San Diego) and was shown the Delta cleat package there was a thought in my mind that these are not going to work but since I had no way to check this I got them as even the head mechanic said "yeah that's a good choice, much better than what you had". I will take them back and tell them why. Performance is good for value but leaves something to be desired for advice.
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Originally Posted by xrazer
Performance is good for value but leaves something to be desired for advice.
they leave something to be desired, period!
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