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Old 01-05-07, 11:21 AM
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cheapest place to buy a campy record group

I am in the market for a record group and so far 11speed.com at $1270 shipped is the cheapest I have found. With all the people on this forum I thought maybee someone new of somewhere cheaper. So has anyone seen the group cheaper.

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Thats a killer price. How many pieces in that groupo?
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Bikes Direct.....

Plus they throw in a frame, bars, stem, and a great set of wheels...

Edit...Sorry I had to do it....

That's cheaper than what I got mine for at wholesale prices but I picked individual pieces which is probably more expensive than a pre-packaged set...
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Originally Posted by Hammertoe
Bikes Direct.....

Plus they throw in a frame, bars, stem, and a great set of wheels...

uh oh
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+1 on the BD.
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^ ^ Great set of wheels? I've get to see anything really positive about those wheels coming from an actual owner.

Back on topic: That's a good price for the group from 11speed. I just ordere a Centaur group from ProBikeKit and while they were a bit more than 11speed, I'd done business with PBK before and had a gift certificate there. Also the 11speed website is really screwy some times.
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Don't forget to add in P&H charges.
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Ok, questionable set of wheels . . . but I still think if you can get all that for free you go this route. Free shipping too. You can always use the frame, fork, seat, bars, wheels, brakes, etc for something down the road.
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Just remember, you will be paying duty on the full group, and that 11speed sells out of box OEM take-offs and from other non-new in box sources.
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Originally Posted by stevecaz
Just remember, you will be paying duty on the full group, and that 11speed sells out of box OEM take-offs and from other non-new in box sources.
I just ordered a set of Fulcrum Racing 1's and some Chorus parts (RD, chain, brakeset). All were brand spankin' new and the components were in Campy boxes.

The thing that'll get you from 11speed is the shipping and import duties, but even if you figure those in it's not bad.
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Originally Posted by stevecaz
Just remember, you will be paying duty on the full group, and that 11speed sells out of box OEM take-offs and from other non-new in box sources.
Not true...bicycle components should not be taxed. Wheels will be but groupo parts should not be.

"Nearly all cycling goods are zero-rated by US customs. Groupset items and headsets are zero-rated - you will not have to pay any duty. Some items such as pedals and saddles are charged at 8%."
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Thanks for the input and BD shills. Looks like 11speed it is.

Thats a killer price. How many pieces in that groupo?
Thats on a full compact group(crank, bottom bracket, rear cassette, brakes, brifters, chain, and both derailers.
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You see........there is this guy in a 1978 Chevy van with woodgrain siding down by the train depot. Just knock three times on the back door and say, "Ticondaroga". He will open up the door and the store is open. He just happen to be at a warehouse when it was having a five finger discount sale and well.............the rest is easy to figure out.

No really..............have you tried PBK? They have some great deals but you may get hit with duty from customs.
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Well, the price depends upon what YOU think is a Campy Record group. Back when the bike industry was dominated by sellers with a minimal sense of honesty, and integrity, someone advertising a bike with a "Campy Record Group" was talking about a group that included the shifters, brake levers, front and rear changers, the headset, the bottom bracket, the crank, the chain rings, the freewheel, the cogset, the chain, the seatpost, and both the front and rear hubs.

Today, the bike industry is infested with low-life, low-ball discounters who assume the average customer is dim-witted. So, they will take a generic communist-Chinese frame, gether up a pile of odds and sods Asian close-out components that are a year or two old, slip in a set of Campy shifters and changers and advertise that mess as a "2007 Bottacinelli Carbon frame Campy Record Bike".

How do they get away with selling that pile of cr@p as a "Campy Record" bike? Well, they assume that their buyers are morons...and "moron" would be a compliment for anyone dumb enough to buy such a bike.

So, a REAL Campy Record group is gonna cost some real money. Quality costs more than junk, and that is a hard concept to sell in our Wal-Mart world.
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Wow, thanks there, ABH. So you really WERE complaining that there weren't enough threads about BD and you chose to make this one too? Thanks.
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Originally Posted by alanbikehouston

Today, the bike industry is infested with low-life, low-ball discounters who assume the average customer is dim-witted. So, they will take a generic communist-Chinese frame, gether up a pile of odds and sods Asian close-out components ...


 
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Wow, thanks there, ABH. So you really WERE complaining that there weren't enough threads about BD and you chose to make this one too? Thanks.
Why is it that when someone sees the words "slime ball" or "crook" in a post, they automatically assume the post is about BD?

Oh yeah...now I remember...
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ABH you must be having a bad day. as far as what I think a campy record group is I posted this on thread #14
Thats on a full compact group(crank, bottom bracket, rear cassette, brakes, brifters, chain, and both derailers.
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Thanks for the input it was very helpfull.
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Yeah...thank god they stopped selling "full" groups. You forgot pedals and clips as well. They must have realized that people just want the drivetrain. Crazy bastards.
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Originally Posted by alanbikehouston
Well, the price depends upon what YOU think is a Campy Record group. Back when the bike industry was dominated by sellers with a minimal sense of honesty, and integrity, someone advertising a bike with a "Campy Record Group" was talking about a group that included the shifters, brake levers, front and rear changers, the headset, the bottom bracket, the crank, the chain rings, the freewheel, the cogset, the chain, the seatpost, and both the front and rear hubs.

Today, the bike industry is infested with low-life, low-ball discounters who assume the average customer is dim-witted. So, they will take a generic communist-Chinese frame, gether up a pile of odds and sods Asian close-out components that are a year or two old, slip in a set of Campy shifters and changers and advertise that mess as a "2007 Bottacinelli Carbon frame Campy Record Bike".

How do they get away with selling that pile of cr@p as a "Campy Record" bike? Well, they assume that their buyers are morons...and "moron" would be a compliment for anyone dumb enough to buy such a bike.

So, a REAL Campy Record group is gonna cost some real money. Quality costs more than junk, and that is a hard concept to sell in our Wal-Mart world.
Is Taiwan a communist province/state/country? Communists do make decents goods. Just look at the AK 47. My dad was in Nam fighting with M-16s. When he caught a VC with an AK47 he asked for a trade. Of course, he didn't give the POW his M-16 with bullets. He told me the AK survives all kinds of weather and you can hide it under damped mudd and it still shoots fine when dugged up.
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Originally Posted by Psimet2001
Yeah...thank god they stopped selling "full" groups. You forgot pedals and clips as well. They must have realized that people just want the drivetrain. Crazy bastards.

very well said. The truth is that if you are super OCP on a budget, you can easily get your bike to look full records with only half records.

Need:

record brakes, record shifters.

Everything else can be centaur and no one would know. Make sure you run fancy Nokon cables-it seriously adds credibility.
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Originally Posted by samsation7
very well said. The truth is that if you are super OCP on a budget, you can easily get your bike to look full records with only half records.

Need:

record brakes, record shifters.

Everything else can be centaur and no one would know. Make sure you run fancy Nokon cables-it seriously adds credibility.

Actually, I forgot to add the derailleurs. Yeah those need to be record too.

Ideally: Record shifters, Rear and front derailleur, brakes. Everything else can be centaur. The crank is not all that obvious if you are standing, with one legged clipped in. I have a bike with DA crankset, shifters and rear deralleur and everything else ultegra 6600. Everyone asked if it was full record and reply what do you think? they all said "Looks all DA."
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Originally Posted by samsation7
Is Taiwan a communist province/state/country?<snip>
No. At least not when I lived there. That's kind of why Taiwain exists and is separate from China. There's the R.O.C. (Republic Of China - Taiwan) and then there's the P.R.O.C (People's Republic Of China - China)
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The truth is that if you are super OCP on a budget, you can easily get your bike to look full records with only half records.
I do want a full record drivetrain as it was called earlier. However If I can save a few bucks I am not against that either. Just thought I would ask a few thousand people and maybee find something I missed.
Like a Typical forum you get a bunch of worthless replies and off subject post. Oh well I anticipated this and am still in hope that I might just find a cheaper place. If not I will pay the $1270 which did include shipping. So keep the info coming good or bad.
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