Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Road Cycling
Reload this Page >

January 5 in New England and I rode in shorts

Road Cycling “It is by riding a bicycle that you learn the contours of a country best, since you have to sweat up the hills and coast down them. Thus you remember them as they actually are, while in a motor car only a high hill impresses you, and you have no such accurate remembrance of country you have driven through as you gain by riding a bicycle.” -- Ernest Hemingway

January 5 in New England and I rode in shorts

Old 01-07-07, 09:47 AM
  #51  
cyclezealot
Senior Member
 
cyclezealot's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Fallbrook,Calif./Palau del Vidre, France
Posts: 13,193

Bikes: Klein QP, Fuji touring, Surly Cross Check, BCH City bike

Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1261 Post(s)
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
We like riding about in shorts today. At least I could and should have. But, come August will we be riding, should it be 109 degrees.

Last edited by cyclezealot; 01-07-07 at 11:21 AM.
cyclezealot is offline  
Old 01-07-07, 10:15 AM
  #52  
-=(8)=-
♋ ☮♂ ☭ ☯
 
-=(8)=-'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: 40205 'ViLLeBiLLie
Posts: 7,902

Bikes: Sngl Spd's, 70's- 80's vintage, D-tube Folder

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by galen_52657
I am planning a ski vacation to upstate New York or Vermont....maybe I should reconsider....all the local ski areas are closed.
There are a few slopes open at the resorts but thats all.
I would definately call first. Im 20 miles from Killington
and it was 60 yesterday and 40 right now. They're a little
higher but I think most of the snow is man-made right now
if Ive heard the resort channel correctly
__________________
-ADVOCACY-☜ Radical VC = Car people on bikes. Just say "NO"
-=(8)=- is offline  
Old 01-07-07, 11:16 AM
  #53  
baiskeli
unaangalia nini?
 
baiskeli's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Arlington MA
Posts: 1,136

Bikes: Jamis Quest (Ultegra components,Mavic Ksyrium Elite wheels and Reynods Ouzo Pro Fork), Gary Fisher Tassajara

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by stevecaz
At 61 degrees today, I wore shorts and a long sleeve jersey thinking the wind would be cold, but I was hot. It was 61 ambient, but the wind blowing in was actually warmer. Tomorrow at 65 degrees, its both shorts and short sleeve jersey. Who would have thought I could try out my new Xmas riding shorts a week after.

I'm not sure if I've ever ridden my road bike in January in my life, let alone in all short gear. Jan and Feb are XC ski and snow shoe months. In NY we would normally have 3 feet of snow, and here its usually less snowy by 15 degrees with salt crust, mounds of road sand, snow reduced road shoulders, and huge frost heaves.

Not sure if I actually like it.
Yesterday (January 6) it hit 68 degrees. Of course like an idiot went for a long ride after 4 months of not riding (or any physical activity). Paying for it now (Ibuprofen is my friend), but don't regret it. This weather is surreal. Concord Center was full of cyclists with similarly dazed expressions.
__________________
baiskeli is offline  
Old 01-07-07, 12:20 PM
  #54  
DrPete 
Dirt-riding heretic
 
DrPete's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Gig Harbor, WA
Posts: 17,413

Bikes: Lynskey R230/Red, Blue Triad SL/Red, Cannondale Scalpel 3/X9

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Originally Posted by Greg200
I love you Doc Pete but what are your sources? There is no doubt that greenhouse gases "contribute" to some level of warming but even if we stopped all emissions tomorrow the earth would still heat up and cool without our involvement based on conditions we have only the smallest concept of.
I agree that it's an imperfect science at best, and it's difficult to really "prove" something conclusively in that realm. I did also take a look at the Oregon petition, etc. to learn a bit more about the con side. I also recently saw "An Inconvenient Truth," Al Gore's new documentary. If you can get past the partisan undertones of the whole thing (there's a not-so-thinly veiled message that the environment would be OK if Gore had won the presidential election) there were some very compelling pieces of information from the side that believes it's a real problem.

I guess what's interesting/disturbing to me is that it's so difficult to make anyone believe that we could possibly be living in a way that's bad for the environment. Our emissions standards for vehicles are some of the lowest in the entire world, for example. What would be the down side of changing that? Toyota and Honda are stomping the big 3 in auto sales right now, and one of the big reasons is that their cars are more fuel-efficient. So it's not like building a more environmentally sensible car will hurt the manufacturers.

I guess the way I see it is that the Earth thrived for billions of years just the way it was, and it doesn't take a genius to see that we're making an impact on the planet in the past hundred years that it's never seen before. What's the down side of working to minimize that impact, whether you believe in global warming or not?
__________________
"Unless he was racing there was no way he could match my speed."
DrPete is offline  
Old 01-07-07, 12:32 PM
  #55  
Proximo
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Denver, CO
Posts: 750
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by DrPete
I also recently saw "An Inconvenient Truth," Al Gore's new documentary. If you can get past the partisan undertones of the whole thing (there's a not-so-thinly veiled message that the environment would be OK if Gore had won the presidential election) there were some very compelling pieces of information from the side that believes it's a real problem.
"Don't Believe the Hype"
Richard S. Lindzen, Alfred P. Sloan Professor of Atmospheric Science at MIT:

http://www.opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=110008597

Last edited by Proximo; 01-07-07 at 12:38 PM.
Proximo is offline  
Old 01-07-07, 01:01 PM
  #56  
DrPete 
Dirt-riding heretic
 
DrPete's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Gig Harbor, WA
Posts: 17,413

Bikes: Lynskey R230/Red, Blue Triad SL/Red, Cannondale Scalpel 3/X9

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Originally Posted by Proximo
"Don't Believe the Hype"
Richard S. Lindzen, Alfred P. Sloan Professor of Atmospheric Science at MIT:

http://www.opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=110008597
Thanks for the link. I thought it was an interesting read. Even I, with my EXTREMELY limited understanding of the whole issue, had to raise an eyebrow when Gore started attributing Katrina and other stuff to global warming. It quickly started to reek of a political message rather than an environmental one.

The issue seems like another of these that will be difficult to conclusively debate because neither side can really slam the door on it. I guess the way I see it, again, is that the debate alone is an eye opener to the impact people have on the world and might serve as an impetus to change it.
__________________
"Unless he was racing there was no way he could match my speed."
DrPete is offline  
Old 01-07-07, 04:15 PM
  #57  
Proximo
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Denver, CO
Posts: 750
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Gore is trying to use the climate change issue as a springboard into the White House in 2008. An Inconvenient Truth was nothing more than his latest campaign ad with all the truth and straight talk campaign ads are known for.

Last edited by Proximo; 01-07-07 at 04:38 PM.
Proximo is offline  
Old 01-07-07, 04:28 PM
  #58  
cyclezealot
Senior Member
 
cyclezealot's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Fallbrook,Calif./Palau del Vidre, France
Posts: 13,193

Bikes: Klein QP, Fuji touring, Surly Cross Check, BCH City bike

Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1261 Post(s)
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
Originally Posted by Proximo
Gore is trying to use the climate change issue as a springboard into the White House in 2008. An Inconvenient Turth was nothing more than his latest campaign ad with all the truth and straight talk campaign ads are known for.
Well. After seeing the movie then; he has encouraged this family to take a second look at the new Gore.
cyclezealot is offline  
Old 01-07-07, 04:34 PM
  #59  
NDG
Bikes, science and snow
 
NDG's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Montreal
Posts: 279

Bikes: Trek Madone 6.5 2012, Norco Indie SS 2012, Rocky Mountain RC50 2007, Miyata 6-10 1982 and CCM Motorbike 1928

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Exactly my point of view.

In any case, I did my effort to fight emissions today. Left the car in the driveway and went out for a 60 km ride along the Lachine canal and St-Louis lake. Unexpected in January. Great ride. The roads were clean because of yesterday's rain. Helped me to forget the XC ski outings that I am missing because of the lack of snow.

Originally Posted by DrPete
I guess the way I see it is that the Earth thrived for billions of years just the way it was, and it doesn't take a genius to see that we're making an impact on the planet in the past hundred years that it's never seen before. What's the down side of working to minimize that impact, whether you believe in global warming or not?
NDG is offline  
Old 01-07-07, 04:57 PM
  #60  
cyclezealot
Senior Member
 
cyclezealot's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Fallbrook,Calif./Palau del Vidre, France
Posts: 13,193

Bikes: Klein QP, Fuji touring, Surly Cross Check, BCH City bike

Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1261 Post(s)
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
I try to follow NDG's example. The car never starts in this household ; unless, there is no alternative. If not for my commute bike, used to complete errands; the car motor probably get cranked 2 or 3 more times per week.
cyclezealot is offline  
Old 01-07-07, 05:16 PM
  #61  
FrankBattle 
SilentRider
 
FrankBattle's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Taiwan
Posts: 2,381

Bikes: Giant TCR Advanced Pro, Trek Domane SLR, Trek Emonda SLR Project One, custom Bingham Built Titanium road bike, custom TYA steel (Taiwan brand), Breezer Venturi, custom Badger Cycles road bike (no longer in business), + a host of other frames

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
*the best thing we can do collectively is to vote in politicians who do not have a vested interest in not passing legislation that hurts the environment. It is agreed that whether or not one believes in Global warming, using less energy helps in many more areas than just the environment. The danger is that "The Environment" may become a panacea of sorts especially if it continues to be used as a political foot-up-the-ass.

Having said that, just because you can run/use your car less than someone else doesn't make you any more of an enviromental saint. Not everyone can go grocery shopping with a bike .. Just like eating "right" itends to be expensive, living environmentally right can be lifestyle/choice/cost-prohibitive for many. Methinks most people have their hearts in the right place and, given the choice/resources, would probably make all the choices that even the tree huggers will approve of.*
FrankBattle is offline  
Old 01-08-07, 09:29 AM
  #62  
stevecaz
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
stevecaz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 212
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by botto
tendonitis.

don't worry: you have to ride a lot to get it.

OK, now you have me concerned. Can you provide a source of the studies you read that show 60 degree weather is too cold for joints. Even if that feels hot I'd rather not cause long term damage.
stevecaz is offline  
Old 01-08-07, 07:48 PM
  #63  
DrPete 
Dirt-riding heretic
 
DrPete's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Gig Harbor, WA
Posts: 17,413

Bikes: Lynskey R230/Red, Blue Triad SL/Red, Cannondale Scalpel 3/X9

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Originally Posted by stevecaz
OK, now you have me concerned. Can you provide a source of the studies you read that show 60 degree weather is too cold for joints. Even if that feels hot I'd rather not cause long term damage.
Granted this is about achilles tendinitis, but it was the first thing that popped up on Medline:
Originally Posted by Pubmed
Foot Ankle Int. 2003 May;24(5):398-401
Cold weather training: a risk factor for Achilles paratendinitis among recruits.

* Milgrom C,
* Finestone A,
* Zin D,
* Mandel D,
* Novack V.

Department of Orthopaedics, Hadassah University Hospital and Hebrew University Medical School, Ein Kerem, PO Box 12000, Jerusalem, Israel. milgrom@md2.huji.ac.il

In a prospective study of risk factors for Achilles tendinopathy among four induction cycles of infantry recruits, 95 out of 1405 recruits, (6.8%) were found to suffer from Achilles tendinopathy. In more than 94% of the cases, the tendinopathy was considered to be paratendinitis. Training season had a statistically significant effect on the incidence of Achilles paratendinitis with 3.6% suffering in the summer and 9.4% in the winter (p = .001). This increased risk for Achilles paratendinitis in cold weather outdoor training can be explained by a fall in temperature of the Achilles paratenon whose membranes are rich in mucopolysaccharides and serve as a lubricant for gliding of the tendon and epitenon. Decreased temperature may increase the viscosity of the lubricant and thereby increases friction and risk for Achilles paratendinitis. This same relationship illustrates why "warming up" before exercising may be important in lowering the incidence of Achilles paratendinitis.
__________________
"Unless he was racing there was no way he could match my speed."
DrPete is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
tara1234
Classic & Vintage
16
03-19-17 12:04 PM
flik9999
Classic & Vintage
16
02-10-17 06:38 PM
CliffordK
Bicycle Mechanics
17
11-08-15 06:26 PM
IcySmooth52
Singlespeed & Fixed Gear
20
08-19-10 10:08 PM
krems81
Classic & Vintage
3
03-14-09 07:29 AM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2018 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.