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Old 02-10-07, 12:51 PM
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Running, you really came through for me.

I can't believe I finished the group ride today. People were attacking constantly and I still made it. I saw a lot of people get dropped that I've never seen get dropped before and I MADE IT!!!
I don't have a computer, but someone said we were pushing 35 mph at one point! I usually get dropped at those speeds after about 20 miles. It's a 50 mile ride.
I know it's because I've been running, and I knew running would help, I just didn't expect that drastic of an impact.
I told myself that if I can complete the ride 4 times in a row, I'd enter another race. 1 down, 3 to go!

Just thought I'd share!
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Old 02-10-07, 01:17 PM
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35mph?

hmmm..... maybe downhill.

How about 25mph? That's more realistic.

35mph is Professional Time Trial speed.
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Old 02-10-07, 01:23 PM
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I think he was saying that after 20 miles of riding of riding he used to be able to be easily dropped if the group accelerated. At one point in the ride someone said they (at that moment) were going 35. Maybe it was downhill...behind a semi...with tow ropes....

Hey! Good for you! Keep it going! In the future you could probably replace 35 with "fast", or "faster than normal".
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Old 02-10-07, 01:29 PM
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Well, it was a pretty flat road, so it wasn't downhill. I dunno, I'm just going off what he said. Maybe he's got a crappy computer or something.
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Thanks! Yeah, that'd be nice.
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Now just start swimming too and you'll be good to go for a tri. It really is amazing how much some real crosstraining will do for you. It also helps in the cold months when you have options of other things to do than just sit inside on the trainer...at least for those of us who have cold months.

Is 35mph on a pickup/attack that hard for people around here to believe?
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Old 02-10-07, 01:52 PM
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Yeah, I guess. Sounds right to me. 25 is WAY too slow for that group.

I was thinking that, but I'm not very good at swimming. XD
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Originally Posted by remorashadow
<snip>Is 35mph on a pickup/attack that hard for people around here to believe?
Not at all, but the original post made it seem as though the 35 was for the whole ride....
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Originally Posted by Patriot
35mph?

hmmm..... maybe downhill.

How about 25mph? That's more realistic.

35mph is Professional Time Trial speed.
aww dont be so negative and let the guy enjoy the good ride he had!
congrats, Im sure your running didnt hurt, it's great on cardio!
keep us updated on your other races!
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Old 02-10-07, 03:19 PM
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35mph is not farfetched for flat ground. I get to those kinds of speed every time I do interval training, including this morning with my group ride. Keep it up, and soon enough you'll be the one dropping people.
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Sounds right to me. 35 is usually not enough to win the county line sprint around here.
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Not at all, but the original post made it seem as though the 35 was for the whole ride....
My mistake. No, I think that was only for a 5 mile stretch or so.
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aww dont be so negative and let the guy enjoy the good ride he had!
congrats, Im sure your running didnt hurt, it's great on cardio!
keep us updated on your other races!
Thanks! Will do!
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Thanks! Lets hope!
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Lol. That doesn't surprise me.
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Originally Posted by Patriot
35mph?

hmmm..... maybe downhill.

How about 25mph? That's more realistic.

35mph is Professional Time Trial speed.
Sorry, but with a little bit of a tailwind, and the right horses, you can go 35mph.

According to Kreuzotter.de, if I were pulling at 400w (and yes, some people can actually do that for short periods) and alternating with a couple of like-minded associates, with a 10mph tailwind, 34.8mph would be my/our speed. Twenty second pulls and you're off makes for a nice pace.

25mph isn't particularly difficult for any length of time, if you actually put yourself in the hurt box from time to time throughout the year. Espcially with a tailwind, which, in Florida, I'm guessing was the case for at least part of the ride.
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Originally Posted by Cot Du Trent
My mistake. No, I think that was only for a 5 mile stretch or so.

Probably quite a bit less than 5 miles. You should get a computer, probably.

A quick calculation put thats at 765W for 5 miles.

35 mph for 5 miles would be pretty good for a professional lead out based on what I've seen (leadout is likely a bit faster, but its not 5 miles long).
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Originally Posted by Duke of Kent
Sorry, but with a little bit of a tailwind, and the right horses, you can go 35mph.

According to Kreuzotter.de, if I were pulling at 400w (and yes, some people can actually do that for short periods) and alternating with a couple of like-minded associates, with a 10mph tailwind, 34.8mph would be my/our speed. Twenty second pulls and you're off makes for a nice pace.

25mph isn't particularly difficult for any length of time, if you actually put yourself in the hurt box from time to time throughout the year. Espcially with a tailwind, which, in Florida, I'm guessing was the case for at least part of the ride.
Haha. With a 10mph tailwind....

So whenever you say things aren't that difficult you assume a fairly stiff, constant tail wind of 10mph?
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Originally Posted by Duke of Kent
if I were pulling at 400w
Then my name would be R600DuraAce
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Doesnt running/jogging beat the crap outta you? A cyclist's knees are his/her livelyhood, why put your joints through all that torture?
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it was just a guess.
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Originally Posted by caloso
Sounds right to me. 35 is usually not enough to win the county line sprint around here.
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Running is ridiculously good for cardio/endurance and general fitness. if you can run at a reasonable pace for 20-30 mins a day then you'll see your fitness sky rocket. As for the joints issue, its all about knowing your body, if you can get to the gym enough to ensure that the muscles around your knees are toughened up then you'll be fine. If running 2/3 times a week wrecks your knees then i'd imagine that your knees arent up to much and cycling will eventually do the same to them.

Well done on your ride, sounds like you may have surprised a few people. Take that enthusiasm out on your training rides and runs and you'll be well on your way to where you want to be.
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Originally Posted by WCroadie
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You guys have 5mi sprints, huh?
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