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IOWA riders take note - HF584

Old 03-04-07, 07:38 AM
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IOWA riders take note - HF584

Looks like somebody is trying to force clown suits, mandatory ID possession and cute little 9" x 6" flags, waving at least sixty inches above the ground.

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Something tells me that won't fly. RAGBRAI is a huge deal, and there is no freaking way the thousands of riders are going to do that - nor does Iowa want to get a reputation as a bicycle nanny state.

House File 584 - Introduced



HOUSE FILE
BY TYMESON


Passed House, Date Passed Senate, Date
Vote: Ayes Nays Vote: Ayes Nays
Approved

A BILL FOR

1 An Act establishing safety requirements for riding a bicycle on a
2 street or highway and making a penalty applicable.
3 BE IT ENACTED BY THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY OF THE STATE OF IOWA:
4 TLSB 2349HH 82
5 dea/je/5

PAG LIN



1 1 Section 1. Section 321.234, Code 2007, is amended by
1 2 adding the following new subsections:
1 3 NEW SUBSECTION. 4A. A person shall not ride a bicycle on
1 4 a highway unless the person is wearing reflective clothing.
1 5 NEW SUBSECTION. 4B. A person riding a bicycle on a
1 6 highway shall carry personal identification at all times when
1 7 riding a bicycle on a highway.
1 8 NEW SUBSECTION. 4C. A person shall not ride a bicycle on
1 9 a highway unless the bicycle is equipped with a fluorescent
1 10 orange safety flag at least six by nine inches in size and
1 11 displayed at least sixty inches above the ground.
1 12 Sec. 2. Section 805.8A, subsection 9, Code 2007, is
1 13 amended to read as follows:
1 14 9. BICYCLE OR PEDESTRIAN VIOLATIONS. For violations by a
1 15 pedestrian or a bicyclist under section 321.234, subsections 3
1 16 and 4 3, 4, 4A, 4B, and 4C, section 321.236, subsection 10,
1 17 section 321.257, subsection 2, section 321.275, subsection 8,
1 18 section 321.325, 321.326, 321.328, 321.331, 321.332, 321.397,
1 19 or 321.434, the scheduled fine is fifteen dollars.
1 20 EXPLANATION
1 21 This bill requires a person to wear reflective clothing and
1 22 carry personal identification while riding a bicycle on a
1 23 street or highway. In addition, the bicycle must be equipped
1 24 with a six=by=nine=inch fluorescent orange safety flag
1 25 displayed at least 60 inches above the ground. A violation of
1 26 bicycle safety provisions is punishable by a scheduled fine of
1 27 $15.
1 28 LSB 2349HH 82
1 29 dea:nh/je/5
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Old 03-04-07, 08:39 AM
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ID, I already do that. Reflective clothing,maybe if you don't use lights (at night). 6x9 flag at 60", Thay can bite my crankarm!!!!!!!!!!!! I would pay the fine.
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Old 03-04-07, 09:28 AM
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I've heard of this bill.... it has little supoort and a TON of opposition in the state. I really don't think anything will come of it. Iowa is a very cyclist friendly state.
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Old 03-04-07, 09:59 AM
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If it passes I'll just pay the fine.
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I doubt that will pass....it had better not. There is no way I'm putting a damn flag on my bike. For god sakes, I'm 6' tall and 220lbs dressed in lycra (not a pretty sight)....if you need a 6"x9" flag to see me you really shouldn't be driving a car.
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I wouldn't worry too much. If passed it will be just one more law for everybody to ignore.

Iowa, and I assume most other states, already have laws mandating the use of headlights if you ride after dark. Now I see kids riding after dark with no headlights all the time so I assume the police must see them too. I've never met anybody who got a ticket for riding after dark with no light. To demonstrate how much of a joke the law is, the CPSC (I assume) has a regulation that all bikes have to have a little reflector facing front. So the CPSC regulation actually circumvents the state headlight laws. How much sense does that make?
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Originally Posted by Retro Grouch
I wouldn't worry too much. If passed it will be just one more law for everybody to ignore.

Iowa, and I assume most other states, already have laws mandating the use of headlights if you ride after dark. Now I see kids riding after dark with no headlights all the time so I assume the police must see them too. I've never met anybody who got a ticket for riding after dark with no light. To demonstrate how much of a joke the law is, the CPSC (I assume) has a regulation that all bikes have to have a little reflector facing front. So the CPSC regulation actually circumvents the state headlight laws. How much sense does that make?
I grew up in Iowa, and I was likely one of the few 12 year olds to have ever been cited for that "nighttime riding without a headlight". Me and my buds used to ride down to the Hy-Vee (grocery) to get some pop (*iowa speak for soda) and we rode without lights, there were streetlights all the way, and usually we wouldn't even see a car except at the store itself. One night we saw a cop hanging out at the store and IIRC he even warned us about not riding without a light. We took the sidewalk back home until we got to the block that didn't have one, and guess who was waiting there - officer Bedford of the Coralville PD. He had a citation for me - and it wasn't the good kind. Had to go to court (got that morning off school though) and if I remember correctly, pay a $15 fine. I always kinda felt like he cheated a bit by waiting up by the nursing home, knowing there was no sidewalk there.
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Personally, I think the ID idea is a good one and if you don't carry one, you're just plain dumb. But that's for your own safety in case you crash and can't talk vs any sense that the cops are entitled to "your papers".
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I'll just pay the fine as well. ID should be carried and there is nothing wrong with reflective clothing. But I sure as hell am not putting an orange flag on my bike (Unless my wife tells me to).
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Originally Posted by fholt
I grew up in Iowa, and I was likely one of the few 12 year olds to have ever been cited for that "nighttime riding without a headlight". Me and my buds used to ride down to the Hy-Vee (grocery) to get some pop (*iowa speak for soda) and we rode without lights, there were streetlights all the way, and usually we wouldn't even see a car except at the store itself. One night we saw a cop hanging out at the store and IIRC he even warned us about not riding without a light. We took the sidewalk back home until we got to the block that didn't have one, and guess who was waiting there - officer Bedford of the Coralville PD. He had a citation for me - and it wasn't the good kind. Had to go to court (got that morning off school though) and if I remember correctly, pay a $15 fine. I always kinda felt like he cheated a bit by waiting up by the nursing home, knowing there was no sidewalk there.


I thought I was the only Iowa City/Coralville guy transplanted to the triangle area!

Bedford is the Chief of Police in Coralville now I think I went to high school with one of his kids as well...
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And to make matters worse, a family is suing a county because a rider hit a crack, biffed and died. If the county loses, what county is going to 1) let Ragbrai through ever again or 2) will want any cyclist on their roads. The orange flag would just be the tip of the iceberg with new rules to all but force cyclists off roads. Trial date is Oct 16.
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Wow... most counties have to give permission to be sued for stuff like this. Wonder how this one made it to court?
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