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50 miles for the first time

Old 03-04-07, 08:20 AM
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50 miles for the first time

I rode about 50 miles yesterday, around 50 miles i literaly stopped and called someone to pick me up because my legs wouldnt move anymore, what happened, i feel fine today.
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It was just a good workout and you ended up bonking. It happens. What did you eat before and during the ride? The more you ride the longer distances the easier it will become.
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i ate 3 eggs for breakfast about 2 hours before the ride, during the ride i ate 3 energy bars and half a sub (i got hungry man)
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Increase your distance in increments. After a few more long rides, 50 miles will seem like a short distance.
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Originally Posted by ivegotabike
i ate 3 eggs for breakfast about 2 hours before the ride, during the ride i ate 3 energy bars and half a sub (i got hungry man)
If you "felt" hungry it was too late. No glycogen http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glycogen in the blood to feed the muscles and your body has not learned to burn fat.

Pull over, eat 3 Snickers, wait 10 minutes and drag yourself home. Been there, done that.

Actually I don't know if that's a good idea but it worked for me.
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On my second trip on my new Orbea I did 60 miles and I almost die,I had to stop like 3-4 times on the last 5 miles because I was basically sleeping while riding I was that bad,now that was January the 9th or something like that,now a days I can do 40-50 miles like nothing as a matter of fact just this morning I did 53.9 miles in 2:48 minutes at an average speed of 19.1 mph and max of 24 mph.

It just take some time to get your body used to it,don't do 50 miles again unless you can do 30-40 very easy and then increase your distance,that's what Ive done an so far so good.

PD: Forgot to say before my rides I eat a nice ham and chese sandwich with Orange juice,30 minutes after I start my ride,half of my ride I eat a Granola Bar and plenty of Gatorade,I take 5 minutes and go back home rolling very easy,you will get used to it.
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Originally Posted by mihlbach
Increase your distance in increments. After a few more long rides, 50 miles will seem like a short distance.

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OP: we should meet up at Ft. Jackson next weekend or something and ride. I did about 33 yesterday morning with a group in NE Cola.
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Originally Posted by sprcoop
If you "felt" hungry it was too late. No glycogen http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glycogen in the blood to feed the muscles and your body has not learned to burn fat.

Pull over, eat 3 Snickers, wait 10 minutes and drag yourself home. Been there, done that.

Actually I don't know if that's a good idea but it worked for me.
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Originally Posted by ivegotabike
i ate 3 eggs for breakfast about 2 hours before the ride, during the ride i ate 3 energy bars and half a sub (i got hungry man)
that was a bad choice of food for breakfast, and an even worse choice of food during the ride...

i personally don't eat breakfast for a ride that distance, i usually drink one serving of Amino Vital thirty minutes before, since it provides some vitamin B's for energy. i know that people are going to say that's not good, and that's fine, but the only ride i eat breakfast before is if i'm going out for a century, because i know i need some real food in my system to endure a ride that long. and even then, i eat something sugar based, like cerial with milk and an english muffin with jelly, and leave at least 2 hours to digest it...

and there's no reason you should need that much food during a ride that distance, you shouldn't actually need any food for the first 2 hours. if you're going to eat energy bars, nibble at an energy bar at the 2 hour mark, and you'll be fine. i'm guessing the ride took about 3 hours, the general rule of thumb is 300 calories per hour between food and drink, and you went WAY beyond that...
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Originally Posted by ivegotabike
i ate 3 eggs for breakfast about 2 hours before the ride, during the ride i ate 3 energy bars and half a sub (i got hungry man)
you probably got hungry cause three eggs dont provide a whole lot of energy. yes a good source of protein and some fat but eggs are pretty low calorie. next time have some toast & fruit with those eggs and you probably wont get so hungry during the ride.

For 50 miles i just eat how i would normally eat. I usually feel like i should eat something around the 30 mile mark, at least a snack.
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Old 03-04-07, 01:08 PM
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carb up the night before also. I know on days that I do legs at the gym, I eat a nice helping of pasta for dinner the night before and that really helps. once I can get closer to biking 50 miles or more (I only did 27 today) I'm going to try the pasta program for that too.
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I tend to bonk earlier than many, and part of it is I burn more calories than most while riding... I also lean toward hypoglycemic during extended exercise.

And even with my issues, I was riding with a friend on what I consider a short easy ride late last summer and she bonked about an hour into a very slow rail trail ride (about 8 or 9 miles)... I ended up turning around and heading to the car to get some food (we didn't bring any on the bikes) and I saw a group and asked for and received an energy bar on the trail... After the extra 15-20 minutes I spent at fairly high exertion for me (about 15 mph), I was still in better shape than my friend even though I weigh over 300 pounds... well over twice her weight.

In my opionion, anyone reading in the forums a message like "You don't even need to eat on that length of ride" should not take the advice if your body has told you otherwise.

And always carry some form of energy food/drink with you on a ride of an hour or more, even if you don't usually need it or it is an easy ride.
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i hope to do 50 miles in the next 6 months. let you know what gets me through it when i get there.
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Originally Posted by Little Darwin
In my opionion, anyone reading in the forums a message like "You don't even need to eat on that length of ride" should not take the advice if your body has told you otherwise.
ok, fine...

the AVERAGE rider shouldn't need that much food during a ride that distance, the AVERAGE rider shouldn't actually need any food for the first 2 hours...

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In terms of a quick source of energy, eggs are about the worst choice you can make.

Running out of glycogen basically means you have *no* energy - nothing particularly hurts, but you still 'just can't do it' - more or less, like a car running out of fuel. There's nothing wrong with the engine, but it still isn't going to spin until you put more fuel in. For me, it happens around three hours or so, depending on how fast or slow I've been going. The more exertion you put forward, the more glycogen, rather than fat, is burned by the body.

Slow down and you can stave it off indefinitely, or 'fuel up' by eating powerbars or the like...
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Originally Posted by FIVE ONE SIX
ok, fine...

the AVERAGE rider shouldn't need that much food during a ride that distance, the AVERAGE rider shouldn't actually need any food for the first 2 hours...

happy...
I am usually happy...

Just wanted to be sure that someone doesn't read the forum and then go along assuming that they don't need food even if their body tells them otherwise.

For me, by the time my body screams it is too late to deal with it effectively. I can make do and get through the ride, but it is hard to replanish the nutrients without enough of a time lapse to then have to deal with a stiff body needing to warm up again. And warming up on the road is no fun when you are tired and I end up wishing it was a cool down.

We'll see how I do when I ride my first century later this year.
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I can go for about 2 hours- 3 at the most- before my body starts crying out for Fuel. If it is an organised ride- or a planned non stopper- then I will have a good breakfast and start eating Cereal bars or some other form of carb before the first hour is up. Other than that- before the 3 hours is up- I am looking for a cafe somewhere.
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i ate eggs because i like eggs, no other reason, eggs are tasty.
i find that i can do a 2 hour ride without eating, but much longer than that and i eat like crazy. Going 3 hours without eating is a stretch for me even if im not doing anything.
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Originally Posted by Gordo789
you probably got hungry cause three eggs dont provide a whole lot of energy. yes a good source of protein and some fat but eggs are pretty low calorie. next time have some toast & fruit with those eggs and you probably wont get so hungry during the ride.

For 50 miles i just eat how i would normally eat. I usually feel like i should eat something around the 30 mile mark, at least a snack.
I totally agree with this man. I usually load up like this a couple hours before a long ride and I make sure to have some things like fruit that are easy for your body to break down in a short period of time. Also if you have an issue with bonking, energy bars won't really help. You'd be better off with some gels with caffeine, snickers or literally Twinkies. One of my favorite things to help with bonking and sometimes prebonk is rocket fuel. Rocket fuel is equal parts coke and gatorade (any flavor b/c it really doesn't matter when you mix it with coke). That stuff took me from sleeping on the sidewalk during a rest to pulling the rest of the group on flats.
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i like eating an egg or two during breakfast along with some toast, or a bagel and some fruit. The slower burning protein from the eggs usually keeps me from "feeling" hungry later but yes, i've noticed that it doesn't help stave off the bonk.
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[as a matter of fact just this morning I did 53.9 miles in 2:48 minutes at an average speed of 19.1 mph and max of 24 mph.


wow 53.9 miles in under 3 minutes
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Originally Posted by ivegotabike
I rode about 50 miles yesterday, around 50 miles i literaly stopped and called someone to pick me up because my legs wouldnt move anymore, what happened, i feel fine today.
Fifty miles is a serious milestone, man. Congratulations.

Keep it up!

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It seems you've angered the cycling gods. A sacrifice is in order!!!!!

(Welcome to bonks-ville...you'll be fine.) Also, congrats on the miles!
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as a matter of fact just this morning I did 53.9 miles in 2:48 minutes at an average speed of 19.1 mph and max of 24 mph.


wow 53.9 miles in under 3 minutes


2.48 minutes, happy now !!
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