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Does water damages bikes?

Old 03-04-07, 12:52 PM
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Does water damages bikes?

Today I was out riding and I overtake a group of fairly good, but definitely OCP riders. The group was about 20 guys and I was probably 2/3 of the way back in the group, when suddenly everyone hits the brakes hard and the riders start to scatter all over the road. A few jump the curb and start riding on the sidewalk!

Were they avoiding a downed rider, a cinder block in the middle of the road?

No. The sprinklers were on in the median and the road was a little wet. A perfectly straight road, no corners for at least a mile and these guys can't get their precious little bikes wet.
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Old 03-04-07, 12:55 PM
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Sounds like classic OCP behavior.

Just to confirm that they were: were they riding +/- 15 MPH?
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More than OCP behavior. Actions like that are down right dangerous. I would avoid that group of chuckleheads at all cost.
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Old 03-04-07, 01:11 PM
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agreed. if you think about it, short of the chain and maybe the cables there's really nothing on most modern bikes that even can rust.
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Originally Posted by DM4
More than OCP behavior. Actions like that are down right dangerous. I would avoid that group of chuckleheads at all cost.
+1, unless next time you bring a lot of Prozac.
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Old 03-04-07, 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by botto
Just to confirm that they were: were they riding +/- 15 MPH?
You pegged it. One guy was dressed in brilliant all white, including bar tape and shoe condom thingies.
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its not just being a sissy. you're welcome to come over and clean my bike and gear post ride...

if i can avoid water and therefore avoid extra work, i will.
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Originally Posted by mx_599
its not just being a sissy. you're welcome to come over and clean my bike and gear post ride...

if i can avoid water and therefore avoid extra work, i will.
so you're a lazy sissy?
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Originally Posted by San Rensho
You pegged it. One guy was dressed in brilliant all white, including bar tape and shoe condom thingies.
Man I'd love to see that. That makes me wanna pass them, ride through a mud puddle, through a pothole, over a roadkilled squirrel, blow some snot rockets, then drop them like a bad habit.
Earlier this week I was riding (my steel bike!) in a torrential downpoor with flooded roads. Half the time my feet were submerged. At least it got the gunk off my drivetrain. The few tiny tiny rust spots that developed on my chain wore off after about 5 seconds of riding in dry weather.

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Originally Posted by botto
so you're a lazy sissy?
HAHA.

hitting the brakes and causing problems or possible crashes for the 20 people behind you for something like sprinklers is stupid. I could see a puddle where you don't know what is in it (potholes or glass...) but a sprinkler? I rode home from the gym in the rain last week and it took me all of 10 minutes to dry off the bike and chain.
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This thread makes me laugh.

In Seattle, we have a word for that sort of behavior - idiotic. You can't have that attitude and still consider yourself a rider; at least not in our parts. Our Chilly Hilly ride last weekend saw a 4,000 rider turnout in 36-38 F rain. We had people riding down the road on BMC Time Machines, Orbea Orcas, Bianchi 928s - water flying everywhere, mud spraying up onto the back of their jerseys, wet rims hissing, the works. Hundreds out with beautiful wheels, frames of all materials, just united in one thing - riding - and not caring about anything else. Myself? I rode my steel-framed Bianchi Veloce and cleaned it off a few days ago.

Don't hang out with those fools!

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Originally Posted by botto
so you're a lazy sissy?
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Old 03-04-07, 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by rha600
HAHA.

hitting the brakes and causing problems or possible crashes for the 20 people behind you for something like sprinklers is stupid. I could see a puddle where you don't know what is in it (potholes or glass...) but a sprinkler? I rode home from the gym in the rain last week and it took me all of 10 minutes to dry off the bike and chain.
well no, i wouldn't cause any havoc over it. i would just avoid it if i could. after years of racing motocross, i am enjoying the "cleanliness" of road cycling.

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Old 03-04-07, 03:32 PM
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+1. There's no harm if it can be avoided safely. From the original description, it would appear that the whole bunch managed to get around the puddle in good time and safely.

End of story. Maybe it's just an exercise to test everyone's bunch riding ability.
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Old 03-04-07, 03:40 PM
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Just cause they got around it safely doesn't mean hitting the brakes and swerving in a 15 person pack is a good idea. Do that if it's glass, not water. ffs... water won't even slow you down.

BTW, water can hurt your bike if it's high pressure, and mfgr will tell you that a strong rain can get through the seals on your parts, but I would be doubtful that any rain can really do that. High pressure water, though, I believe can break the seal and eventually cause damage.

That said, I've used high pressure to wash down a bike, and it didn't get hurt. I kept riding it afterwards, overhauled it a couple months later and didn't notice anything terribly wrong, but it's still not a good idea. This was a beater bike, though, so it's not like it mattered either way.
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man, i get sick and tired of that grimy residue you get all over the hard to clean places like between brake pads, deraillerurs, chainrings, etc. thats why i never ride in the rain, and when i do, i ride a track bike. you dont even have to clean it.

anyway, water doesnt really damage bikes at all, or at least not that youd see in your lifetime. i just dont like getting wet and being squishy and having my fingers wrinkle and go numb for 2 hours. so yeah, def. ocp if they are afraid of riding through a little mist for a quarter of a second.
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My main roadie has developed spots of bright orange rust within several hex bolts, such as the seatpost binder bolt and the bottle cage bolts. Interestingly enough, it wasn't until I recently showered off my bike that any of this rust appeared (having rode in the snow and salt for 2 months).
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"anyway, water doesnt really damage bikes at all, or at least not that youd see in your lifetime"\

That's not really true. Rust does kill, but it's not common. It's more common on lower end frames. If you have proper drainage holes, I wouldn't worry about it though.

This is steel, of course. Aluminum isn't affected much or at all by water. I can't remember, but there's something bad that can happen to aluminum.
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Probably just OCP.

On the other hand, a puddle can hide a pothole of unknown depth and dimension. I don't know if the OP lives in pothole-country, but up here I tend to err on the side of safety - once too many I've gone into a puddle and hit a much bigger bump than I was anticipating.

On the yet-other-hand, scattering like squirrels in a good-sized group is just asking for a pileup.
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Does not appear to be applicable in this case, but the other issue with a puddle in the middle of the road is that it could very well be left over engine oil or brake fluid. I would avoid puddles when I can, unless it's clearly just water from a water tap.
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Originally Posted by the beef
This thread makes me laugh.

In Seattle, we have a word for that sort of behavior - idiotic. You can't have that attitude and still consider yourself a rider; at least not in our parts. Our Chilly Hilly ride last weekend saw a 4,000 rider turnout in 36-38 F rain. We had people riding down the road on BMC Time Machines, Orbea Orcas, Bianchi 928s - water flying everywhere, mud spraying up onto the back of their jerseys, wet rims hissing, the works. Hundreds out with beautiful wheels, frames of all materials, just united in one thing - riding - and not caring about anything else. Myself? I rode my steel-framed Bianchi Veloce and cleaned it off a few days ago.

Don't hang out with those fools!
In Seattle....

See, you should have just stopped there - doesn't it only rain twice a year in Seattle anyway? (January-August, Late August-January)

I suspect that if riders were afraid of the wet there, they'd move or change sports

You know what the best thing about a good muddy nasty road ride is? How clean your bike is after you get the sludge off everything.
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I like keeping my bike clean, so I avoid puddles if I can and if I can't I slow down to almost a stop and roll through and after I get past I coast for a bit from side to side to get the water off my tyres.

Cleaning is a pain in the ass, and flying through a puddle for 2 seconds on a 1 hour ride isn't worth the hassle.
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Originally Posted by aprilia4life
I like keeping my bike clean, so I avoid puddles if I can and if I can't I slow down to almost a stop and roll through and after I get past I coast for a bit from side to side to get the water off my tyres.

Cleaning is a pain in the ass, and flying through a puddle for 2 seconds on a 1 hour ride isn't worth the hassle.
On your own, sure, but not in a race.
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i don't really care about dirt, mud, water... etc. I live in seattle....
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It's a well known fact that OCP bikes melt when wet... unless they're carbon fiber, then they explode as the water dries.
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