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105 vs Ultegra::Brifters

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Old 03-08-07, 03:14 PM
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105 vs Ultegra::Brifters

I'm sorry, i'll actually flame myself for this question.

Any reason one would want to upgrade, other then to flex their wallet?

My current setup is ultegra rear derailleur, 105 front and 105 brifters. I'm going to be getting the lady on a bike this summer though and with our budget i it's mostly going to be tigrra so this may be an excuse for me to upgrade and hand some stuff down to her
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Ahh, giving the girl hand me downs, dirty. My response to you, if I were her, would be "how about I just get the ultegra stuff and you keep your 105 components?"
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With the caveat that I have only a little experience with Ultegra vs. 105 and Dura-Ace vs. 105, your money would probably be better spent going straight for Dura-Ace shifters granted there is about $100 difference in a new shifter set. But it could depend, 9 or 10 speed, double or triple, and how much of a weight weenie you are. Bottom line, it's going to be mostly wallet flexing - so if you are going to flex might as well go all the way.
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Originally Posted by Xrisnothing
Ahh, giving the girl hand me downs, dirty. My response to you, if I were her, would be "how about I just get the ultegra stuff and you keep your 105 components?"
Yeah, be careful there. His gf recently joined the forums....

For recreational use, 105 should be quite sufficient. It's basically trickle-down technology from DA and Ultegra anyway, so you can't go wrong with newer 105 components (i.e., since 105 has gone to 10-speed).
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I own a $350 aluminum frame and $300 wheels...i'm not even close to "weight weenie" so if the only difference is weight then i couldn't care. The only thing that would make me spend the money is better shifting performance, and my 105's do a pretty good job at that so it would have to be a vast improvement anyways.
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Hey timmyquest, where did you guys decide to check out bikes / get a fitting?
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Hey timmyquest, where did you guys decide to check out bikes / get a fitting?
We aren't really sure yet. The problem is that a good fitting is going to cost a bit of money, and we're trying to decide if it's going to be worth it given the fact that our selection of a bike is severely limited to our budget. So we may not even be able to fully utilize a good fitting. I think for now we're going to do a wrenchscience.com fitting, see what the tell us, go test ride a few bikes...and go from there. We've got a few months before she'll even have the time to ride so no sense in rushing it.
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I could use a set of 105 Brifters. Are they nice? Scratched up, PM me if you want to sell them.
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Originally Posted by timmyquest
We aren't really sure yet. The problem is that a good fitting is going to cost a bit of money, and we're trying to decide if it's going to be worth it given the fact that our selection of a bike is severely limited to our budget. So we may not even be able to fully utilize a good fitting. I think for now we're going to do a wrenchscience.com fitting, see what the tell us, go test ride a few bikes...and go from there. We've got a few months before she'll even have the time to ride so no sense in rushing it.

Usually the cost of the fitting goes towards the purchase of the bike so you really aren't "loosing" any money. Also, I would say yes to the upgrade, get the Ultegra used off the bay, give her the 105s and sell the Tiagra junk (it will be about a $50-$75 upgrade, not too bad).
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Tiagra junk? Though a DuraAce 10 drivetrain sits on my Cervelo R3, I am quite pleased with the Tiagra 9 drivetrain on my Specialized Allez Sport. Sure, the components are heavier, but they work just fine.
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I have 10 speed Ultegra and my wife has 10 speed 105. My Ultegra shifters are lighter and easier to actuate, but the differences are minor. So I'd say it's not worth the money to upgrade. The law of diminishing returns really kicks in after 105.
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Yup... that's the big difference across the range as far as I can tell. Weight and how hard one has to push the levers to shift. My Tiagra shifters require me to push a bit harder with my fingers. Funny thing is, though, in the later stages of a long ride, my fingers aren't exactly on the list of the parts of my body that are hurting.
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