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Old 03-08-07, 04:03 PM
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I might be breaking down and buying a new set. What do you think is the fastest wheel set availble for $600 or so?
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Bontrager Race X Lites
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Old 03-08-07, 09:42 PM
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The fastest set is any set under a well trained pair of legs.
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I like em Campy wheels. If you've got a Campagnolo drivetrain, take a look at them Campagnolo Zondas. They're seriously hot.
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A set of customs most likely. You can get a nice set from Mike Garcia or Troy @ Ligero for under $600.00.
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This is my favorite question: The only way it could be better was if bikes-direct sold some off brand deep dish carbons for 600 bucks that weigh 2400g.
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Originally Posted by urbanknight
The fastest set is any set under a well trained pair of legs.
+1

Having said that, I've had a pair of Speeddream wheels for a year and a half that cost me around 6 bills. Weight for the set was 1356g, and that includes rim tape/plugs. Not too shabby! Haven't had to touch a spoke wrench in the time I've had 'em, either.
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2007 Mavic Ksyrium Elite Wheelset

Weight: 1690.0g $599.99
These have been redesigned with most of the features from the SL's and the ES's.
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Originally Posted by delmont425
Bontrager Race X Lites
+1, I can't say enough good things about the race x lites, you can get them new from ebay for less then $600 easy. I have 2 pairs and love them.
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Bontrager Race X Lites

+1 Great Wheelset! Stiff, Strong and Fairly light.
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+1 campy zondas
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custom is the way to go, ligero for sure. the weight and durability at that pricepoint will be a big difference. Screw the boutique wheels.
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Screw the boutique wheels.
Yeah, because when it really counts, the fastest riders in the world ALL ride on boutique wheels.
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Originally Posted by jit5
2007 Mavic Ksyrium Elite Wheelset

Weight: 1690.0g $599.99
These have been redesigned with most of the features from the SL's and the ES's.
I've got a set. I've put about 1000 miles on them and like them. They shouldn't be that much, my LBS got them for me a bit cheaper.
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Definitely check out Ligero's work on his Flickr account http://www.flickr.com/photos/ligerowheels
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Originally Posted by jit5
2007 Mavic Ksyrium Elite Wheelset

Weight: 1690.0g $599.99
These have been redesigned with most of the features from the SL's and the ES's.

There are plenty of good deals on those wheels, they can be found for much less than $599.
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Originally Posted by DrPete
Yeah, because when it really counts, the fastest riders in the world ALL ride on boutique wheels.
They ride what they are paid to ride. Reading much more into it than that would be an error. If Mike Garcia sponsored Dicso or CSC, they would ride them.
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They ride what they are paid to ride. Reading much more into it than that would be an error. If Mike Garcia sponsored Dicso or CSC, they would ride them.
Not entirely correct.

By almost all accounts, including the Lightweight rep at my LBS, the only person who doesn't pay for their Lightweight wheels is Zabel.
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http://www.williamscycling.com/

I am on his System 19 wheels and think they are great.
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Originally Posted by DrPete
Yeah, because when it really counts, the fastest riders in the world ALL ride on boutique wheels.
Originally Posted by jamiewilson3
They ride what they are paid to ride. Reading much more into it than that would be an error. If Mike Garcia sponsored Dicso or CSC, they would ride them.
You're both right- most racers rider boutique wheels, and for those racers, usually an off-the-shelf or slightly modified product is what they ride. Some racers don't however... Discovery (RIP) rode Bontrager's- not really boutique- but the actual wheels they rode bore nothing but skin-deep resemblence to any production wheel... they have much more in common with a custom wheel maker's product than anything out of Trek.

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Not entirely correct.

By almost all accounts, including the Lightweight rep at my LBS, the only person who doesn't pay for their Lightweight wheels is Zabel.
That rep is lying his ass off, and using an old line at that. I think it was Moses who while looking over a sweet pair of stone and bronze aero rims with a rep was first handed the now classic "Our stuff is so good, we only pay (insert top name on their ticket)... all the other pros pay us."
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Originally Posted by DrPete
Yeah, because when it really counts, the fastest riders in the world ALL ride on boutique wheels.
This is true, but that's for racing. They generally train on more traditional wheels for the extra weight and to get a mental boost when they go back to a full race rig. There's no doubt that a set of Lightweights doesn't leave much room for speed gains from a wheelset.

The tradeoff for an amateur cyclist is that you can get more durability and easier maintenance with traditional lacing and brass nipples, which is nice if you have to train on your race wheels. There's potentially a little weight associated with the durability, but it doesn't make much practical difference. It's pretty easy to go to weightweenies and spec custom wheels with brass nipples and more spokes that are lighter than similarly priced boutiques.

The industry has changed a lot in the last 15 years, as most avid cyclists now "upgrade" equipment so often that durability and maintenance aren't practical issues anyway. I think that covers most folks on BF, so boutique wheels are a fine choice for them.

For myself, I like building wheels, so I'll always ride customs.
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Originally Posted by VT to CA
You're both right- most racers rider boutique wheels, and for those racers, usually an off-the-shelf or slightly modified product is what they ride. Some racers don't however... Discovery (RIP) rode Bontrager's- not really boutique- but the actual wheels they rode bore nothing but skin-deep resemblence to any production wheel... they have much more in common with a custom wheel maker's product than anything out of Trek.



That rep is lying his ass off, and using an old line at that. I think it was Moses who while looking over a sweet pair of stone and bronze aero rims with a rep was first handed the now classic "Our stuff is so good, we only pay (insert top name on their ticket)... all the other pros pay us."
Proof?
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Zabel is one of a few sponsored Lightweight riders. What about the whole UNIBET team? they pay for theirs. Look at tough races like Paris Roubaix, what are they riding? handbuilt wheels for the most part. And the boutique wheels they ride arent $600 wheels now are they?
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Originally Posted by djbowen1
Zabel is one of a few sponsored Lightweight riders. What about the whole UNIBET team? they pay for theirs. Look at tough races like Paris Roubaix, what are they riding? handbuilt wheels for the most part. And the boutique wheels they ride arent $600 wheels now are they?
Good point. Forgot about them.
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