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Old 03-09-07, 10:43 AM
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Short Femurs and Longer femurs

so i need some help or advice.......i've been training my ass off and it seems like it's not paying off. im still a cat 4 and i train as much as a pro does. my results are the same as last year if not worse. recently i've been discouraged by the fact that i can't get as good as other riders becuase i have shorter femurs than other riders.....does having shorter femurs put you at a disadvantage?? the only reason i'm saying this is because im confused as to why im not progressing as well as other riders. whats the theory on this
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Originally Posted by tuscanydj
so i need some help or advice.......i've been training my ass off and it seems like it's not paying off. im still a cat 4 and i train as much as a pro does. my results are the same as last year if not worse. recently i've been discouraged by the fact that i can't get as good as other riders becuase i have shorter femurs than other riders.....does having shorter femurs put you at a disadvantage?? the only reason i'm saying this is because im confused as to why im not progressing as well as other riders. whats the theory on this
You're over-training. BIG time.
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Old 03-09-07, 10:55 AM
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You do sound discouraged. If it's important to you, you should think about hiring a cycling coach. It takes many years to learn how to self-coach. Just one season with a real coach can point you in the correct direction.

As to the short femurs: I don't know. An exercise physiologist could tell you, though. Maybe one will comment. My guess is probably not. I do know that tendon attachment point is a genetic thing that makes a difference. If you look at a shot of the back of Lance's flexed knee, his tendons stick out a mile. But femur length is just a matter of length of lever arm. With the same musculature, your short femurs should exert more force at the knee joint than longer femurs. Be sure that your crank arms are the correct length for you and your riding style.

Short people have short femurs. It's a fact that many cycling champions have been short.
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Perhaps get a coach? Keep in mind that I'm just Cat 5 right now, but in theory at least a coach will be able to sit down with you, set out some goals and a strategy to get there. I'd imagine most reputable coaches are retired Cat 1/2 or Pro's and know what it takes to get from here to there. Shorter legs might have something to do with your leverage on the cranks and such, but aren't there some comperatively short Pro's? I might be mistaken, but isn't Levi fairly short and riding a 52cm frame, or is that someone else?

**late edit: looks like carbonfiberboy beat me to the punch . . .

By the way carbon, where in Everett do you live? I'm just across the Hwy 2 Trestle in Lake Stevens!
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Short femurs aren't going to slow you down of their own accord and for the same muscle mass you will have more force at the knee than those with longer femurs. You've possibly overtrained or there could be a multitude of other reasons however you could look into whether the cranks are TOO long for you or not. See, http://www.cranklengh.info and he addresses long or short femurs.

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Bod mod: surgical femur augmentation

Shortening your tibia, fibula should also increase your power.
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Originally Posted by Carbonfiberboy
You do sound discouraged. If it's important to you, you should think about hiring a cycling coach. It takes many years to learn how to self-coach. Just one season with a real coach can point you in the correct direction..
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Get on a team, with a coach. Training hard and training right are two different things!!!
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+1 to the above. If you blindly train as much as a pro, get nowhere, and start blaming things on the length of your femurs, hire a coach.

Then you can blame him.
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This one's pretty short.....
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This guy has short femurs too.

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you ride 25k miles a year?
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Originally Posted by Dewbert
This one's pretty short.....
No, no, no, no! FEMUR, not lemur!
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you ride 25k miles a year?
took the words out of my mouth. Plus the quality of the training is important too.
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Originally Posted by Carbonfiberboy
No, no, no, no! FEMUR, not lemur!
Oh......well, that makes a bit of a difference, doesn't it?
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Could you describe how you train?
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