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Originally Posted by jemoryl
So if I had a carbon frame and the seat stays were fastened on by screws instead of glue that would be proof of its superiority?
My experience has been that the heel cup eventually separated from the sole in the cheap shoes I've had. On the Sidis, the heel cup seems to be screwed onto the sole to prevent that from happening. A shoe is "better" to me if it appears its designers have solved the fault that caused the "lesser" shoe to wear out. |
Originally Posted by Phantoj
Are the seat stays being peeled off in tension? Is the interface between the stay the rest of the frame just a flat plate, or is there a lug the stay fits into so that the adhesive is loaded in shear?
My experience has been that the heel cup eventually separated from the sole in the cheap shoes I've had. On the Sidis, the heel cup seems to be screwed onto the sole to prevent that from happening. A shoe is "better" to me if it appears its designers have solved the fault that caused the "lesser" shoe to wear out. |
Originally Posted by jemoryl
And what I'm saying is if the heel cup does not separate from the sole the manufacturer has used an appropriate method, screw, glue or staples, I don't really care. Just like my criticism of the original post, you can't simply compare how the shoes look to judge which will be a better shoe. What if the screws were apt to pull out in use? Would that be intrinsically better than a strong adhesive, properly applied?
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How long should my new Sidi's last? Where does the wear occur?
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Originally Posted by MIN
How long should my new Sidi's last? Where does the wear occur?
A good pair can last 5-15 years. Roughly. Mine shoes wear on the sole (middle and toe) - heel is replaceable (once a season for me) and on the buckle and velcro closures. |
Originally Posted by Psimet2001
Longer than you will ever expect them to...and I typically wear mine on my feet.
A good pair can last 5-15 years. Roughly. Mine shoes wear on the sole (middle and toe) - heel is replaceable (once a season for me) and on the buckle and velcro closures. I have the Dominator 5s, I'm not sure the MTB shoes are as "modular." The sole doesn't appear to be replacable. |
Originally Posted by MIN
I have the Dominator 5s, I'm not sure the MTB shoes are as "modular." The sole doesn't appear to be replacable.
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how are you all wearing the sole out? do you walk around in them that much? I put mine on right before I hop on the bike and take them off right after. I walk maybe 20 ft total each day.
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Originally Posted by rha600
how are you all wearing the sole out? do you walk around in them that much? I put mine on right before I hop on the bike and take them off right after. I walk maybe 20 ft total each day.
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I'm looking to buy a pair in the next month or so. right now I have a pair of diadora mtb shoes (probably 4 years old) and they are just not much good on the road bike. I have sidi motocross boots and love them so I figured I'd stick with them for the bike too. I was going to go with road bike shoes but I'd rather keep the SPD so I think I'm going to buy the dominator 6 or the dragon 2. I have to find a palce that sells them locally so I can try them.
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Originally Posted by rha600
I'm looking to buy a pair in the next month or so. right now I have a pair of diadora mtb shoes (probably 4 years old) and they are just not much good on the road bike. I have sidi motocross boots and love them so I figured I'd stick with them for the bike too. I was going to go with road bike shoes but I'd rather keep the SPD so I think I'm going to buy the dominator 6 or the dragon 2. I have to find a palce that sells them locally so I can try them.
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really? I did see an accessory that looked like it adapted the road shoes to SPD but the SIDI web site doesn't give a whole lot of info. there's not even a section for specs on the shoes. That is something I might look into though, thank you! I would like to try the carbon shoes.
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Originally Posted by mrfish
Just to put the opposing view: My feet hated the Sidis I had. They had gimmicky plastic buckles and ratchets that gave tight spots and irritated the bones at the top of my feet, and the soles were bendy and frankly ten years behind the competion. I would also comment that the Sidis in the picture need the thickly padded tongue to avoid this - in my view it's better to engineer out the root cause rather than pad it out. Back in the mid 1990s Robert Millar started the argument that some shoe sole flex is needed for comfort. Nowadays we all know that people ride shoes you can't bend when trying. Basically Sidi's comfort flex argument is rubbish IMO, the only angle here that there's no point in overbuilding the shoe as the extra weight isn't worthwhile. Only point in my Sidi's favour was that they were a cool colour and never wore out despite 3 years of living with them.
My feet are low-height and normal width, but have a long 3rd toe which doesn't like touching the end of the shoe. A quick review of 2 favourites: My old Shimano R212 shoes will either cocoon or totally lock down my feet and have stiff soles with a medium curve that flexes the foot a little and helps hold it in place. They totally bust the notion that plastic buckles are needed as velcro stretches. These do not. Underneath their aero shoe covers you will find most of the UK sprinters putting 2000 watts through these. After 6 of 7 years of regular wear in all weathers plus some commuting I just haven't been able to wear these out. They are totally bombproof. However in hot weather my 3rd toe touched, so I also got some egg-shaped Carnac heliums to fit my egg-shaped feet. The sole is less curvy than a shimano but with a BG insole and wedge there is almost no movement, even with the straps only loose. ==> Basically your feet call the shots - whether the Adidas shoes are better / worse than Sidis or not depends on your feet and how they fit your feet, not whether the soles look curved / flat whether the toes are egg-shaped or not. Couldn't have said it better myself. What a biased review. I don't like Sidi shoes because they are not a good fit for me. This doesn't mean that they are not good shoes. It take a real idiot to make a gernal claim like "brand x sucks because it doesn't fit me well..." You could apply this to the topic of this thread and the dude who's making these ridiculous claims. Side shoes are good, so are Adidas. Just because they don't fit the dude who made the post, doesn't mean that the shoes suck. |
Originally Posted by MIN
Ok - how consistant of a fit with US men's shoe sizing is a Sidi? I wear 10.5 mens (civilian shoes) normally and I just bought 43 Sidis (nominally US 9 or so.) I can't decide if that is too tight of a fit. I have room some room in the toes but it's a bit narrow. Does it stretch or should I return it for a 44?
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Can I request a photo of the Sidi's sole without the cleat if it's not too much trouble? Thanks
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SIDI's are great shoes, I just wish to hell that I could fit in them. I have a pair of Rocket7's on order, and should receive them any day now. Because their headquarters are about 40 mins south of me, I was able to go down and try on their sizes of varying widths and we were able to find a pair that fits like a glove (which, with my oddly shaped flat, overpronating feet, is insane).
Anyhow, I realize this is an older thread, but nice shoes Cypress. |
HI....
Adidas vs sidi... After years using roomy's Time equipe shoes try sidis is just like non sense at least for me. After years I change to carnac quartz, same quality shoe than the old time equipe... At least they fit me well. Yesterday I went to a store to try the adidas adistar ultra's... roomy shoe... the nice about adidas is that they run in 1/4's of sizes so u have to fine the right size for you. I have no idea how they perform riding them in the bike but my 1st impresion was quite nice and rommy toe box. I have to admint the finishings in the shoes arent that great but are better than before. Regarding sidis, i dont think its a bad shoe but is the same shoe I tried 20 + years ago but with insoles today (no clue about the extra wide oens and the super high end ones). I tried my 1st pair 20 years ago, the black ones with yellow that fignon used to use, just when velcro and straps in the shoes was starting to get into the market. Back in the day I swtiched to Time equipe, back in the day the look shoes were very good also and Carnac had a very wide and commfy shoe also. Get the shoe fits u better, but sometimes people do not know any better, besides all depends of what the store is pushing at that momment also. Anybody have xperience with the new carnacs? they runs wide as the old ones or they screwed up changing the shape of the shoe?? Have a nice day... UM |
sidi's are best period! all others pale n comparison. sometimes there is just a superior product and in this case that is sidi. that being said, i would only go for the genius series of shoes.
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http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/b...m/SIDIs003.jpg
I think someone may have touched on it, but the soles on mine are almost entirely modular/rebuildable, and still come in under 600 grams for the pair. |
Originally Posted by TechJunkie
(Post 5101398)
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i had been wearing specialized pro carbon road shoes prior to getting my new Sidi 6.6's. i wore these shoes for the fist time yesterday on a 64mi group ride. they felt WONDERFUL! no hot spots either:
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f7...923800x600.jpg |
Originally Posted by mrbubbles
(Post 5101515)
Why is your heel tab so clean?
SIDIs rock. |
Originally Posted by mrbubbles
(Post 5101515)
Why is your heel tab so clean?
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these picks got me thinking; can i rock white shoes? they sure are pretty :). later.
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