Chucklehead

in soviet russia, lance would have you killed for saying anything bad about him.

DCist

And you, with your gross generalizations, sound like you would rather blame the victim. Wonder where that sort of mentality comes from?

slowandsteady

Personal accountability

crash13

I respect Lance for his abilities and what he has done for cycling in the US, but I sometimes struggle with how I feel about him as a person. Especially, after hearing all of the negative press, etc...
I'm not looking for a role model....just some inspiration to keep on pedaling!

DCist

Code for "arrogance and inexperienced in life."

Berg417448

+1

I know several people like that.

kensuf

Why do people stay in jobs that suck? I can't answer that one..

In my own experiences, I left job (a) twelve months after it became intolerable (it was great for the first nine months, then started to suck for three, then the last year was intolerable). Job (b) was fantastic for the first three months, which might have been just the "honeymoon" phase; it quickly turned to suckage. I stayed for a year only because I was told repeatedly that my boss was leaving "soon" and that things would get better; he never left, so I did.

Both jobs sucked because of poor management. Boss "A" refused to deal with personnel issues, and just sat around playing his fiddle while Rome burned to the ground (we had a complete turnover within six months). Boss "B" was just a jackass who shouted at people and berated them.

Current place has been great, five years running.

Any job can suck every now and then. That's why it's called "work" and not "play". But the amount of suck should not be overwhelming; if it is then it's time to move on.

S_DOG34

In my experience quite the opposite is true. Even if he was disgruntled for good reason, you still have to question the validity of his statements. This isn't even about whether Lance is guilty or not...heck it isn't even about Lance at all.

I'm just saying that testimony from disgruntled employees about their former bosses is totally worthless and jaded. You seem to think that his reasoning for being disgruntled is somehow related to the accuracy of his testimony - it's not.

slowandsteady

Well you certainly don't know me at all.

You may also want to read my posts. I clarified my statements with "in my experience." I don't claim to say that ALL formerly disgruntled employees are at fault or have a victim mentality. It is just my experience from both a management perspective, coworker and friend.

Like I said, I haven't loved every job I ever had. But I also had enough sense not to say in a toxic situation long enough to become disgruntled. Is that arrogance and inexperience? I don't think so.

I also work alongside people with exactly the same opportunities that are available to me, yet they say it is a dead end job. Perception is everything. Because they don't pursue those opportunities, they languish in the same position while I have had four promotions in six years. We even had the same exact start date and title six years ago.

Several years ago, I was working at a place as a temp that I will call toxic. The perm employees were lazy to the point of working until 10:30 AM and then playing solitare all day long. They were mean and backstabbing.

I had only been there a few months, along with some others. One woman in particular would get infuriated by their lack of work ethic and how much more work it caused her to do. I however, loved it. I not only did my work, and their work, but also did lots of extras. I figured the worse those idiots were the better I looked. It was true. I received a small award and was hired permanently. The other woman was never hired, despite having a little more experience than me. I guess management figured they had enough bad attitudes and they didn't need another.

If a job is that horrible. Don't whine about it, just leave. Or make lemonade out of lemons. By the way, I have been working for 22 years. I have never been unemployed.

One thing my experience has taught me is that attitude is more important than just about anything else. Even though I have had my share of lousy jobs, I try to learn what I could have done differently. Should I have been more pressing in my interview? Should I have done more research on that company? How can I make this difficult situation pleasant and positive?


Personal accountability.

Flak

...says the man who just passed judgement on everybody who complains about thier job.

cycle17

Back on topic...I agree with bdchueng...this only tells us Anderson's claims, it would be nice to see the document from Lance/his side regarding rebuttals. I take these things with a grain of salt, since we don't and likely never will know both sides of the story.

slowandsteady

That's WO-man to you.

Hambone

The guy who used to process the deposit returns and sell me my next twelve pack when I was an undergrad had a Masters in Philosophy and spoke at least three languages.

Hambone

Everything I've read makes it seem like Lance was never harder on anyone else than he was on Lance.

That's enough for me.

DogBoy

I wouldn't fire him, but I wouldn't give him the raise either. I'm pretty sure I would be able to replace him with someone else for the same amount of money or less. Can we at least agree that 37k a year for being a personal assistant to a celeb is some pretty good ching?

slowandsteady

Now why would anyone get a Masters in Philosophy?

schnee

Not at all. I know of personal assistants for sales types with Lance-level incomes that clear 2-3x that. If Lance lived in some tiny midwest town, it'd be good cash but on the coasts it's a pittance.

Hambone

My parent's have old friends with two kids. They grew up in white suburban Connecticut -- like real white, suburban Connecticut -- cucumber sandwhiches, no crust. You know what I mean.

The daughter earned her degree in African American studies.

The son in Women's Studies.

The father is in life insurance. A numbers guy. He couldn't be more concrete.

Hambone

The only reason to give a raise in your world is because you can't get somebody to do the job for less?

And the answer to your question is no.

SpongeDad

I was thinking $36K was pretty good for an anthropology major.

Little Darwin

I would love to get a Master's in Philosophy.

I would never expect it to be cost effective in my ensuing career, but it would be a cool degree to pursue.

Of course, I only have about 10 years or so until I retire, and I'm working on my BS, so no Masters degree has a reasonable chance to get to the break even point.



But seriously, the only place I think it would have a career advantage is teaching philosophy, but how many community college level philosophy teachers are there?